Check out this wallpaper, I made... it is by far my best work...

There's a phrase used in Architecture known as 'trees at 3 foot centers'....meaning contrived creation/layout....in this case....planet in middle and 'nebulae' in all 4 corners.....one word....'composition'.

Huh?

can you give that to me agian,

I think your saying you don't like my nevula in all 4 corners

I see what you mean, but I am kinda stuck there


I guess I could just add more on the right side going up and aroun a little to offset it...

but over all what do you think?

oooo, oooo and check this out I was thinking about moving the light cloud to the crashing astroidmaking it sort of like the cloud was hiding it all along and bammmm it got pounded...

Overall I think that it looks both unrealistic and childish.

Space scenes are probably the hardest works to realize as they by necessity must be 'imagined', not created from life.

Most amateurish works are attempts at science-fiction or space scenes.

 

Remember........ you DID ask...

The four cournered nebulae is really distracting to me. It looks like a big X. Then the planet dead center... it would be more interesting were it less balanced. And the white thing is also confusing.

Jaffo,


I dare you do do a better space scene....

That is all I will say...

your remark, to say the least, was childish...

...also there is something about the depth... kind of like those visual puzzles. Like the five-legged elephant. I start understanding the depth of an area to be distant and suddenly it is forefront in a disconcerting way.

I don't get it, you put your stuff here and get someone like Jafo who is an expert in the field to give an evaluation because you asked and because he is nice, and then when he gives it you throw it in his face with an insult. I'm not even opening your threads any more.

the depth of what? the planet? that sucker has dept... You may be right in the sense of the nebula... I may have to go back an work on that...
I have an idea for it though...

But how is the overall effect... I think it is very good...I could probably find something wrong with Britney Spears too...I still want to have her children though...

Overall I think that it looks both unrealistic and childish.

hmmmm.


you said:(goodmorphing)

and get someone like Jafo who is an expert in the field to give an evaluation because you asked and because he is nice

And I say...

That is exactly what I mean about a "clique"

how old are you 3... obviously that was an unnessacerry comment from him, or at the very least one that was upsetting to me...then you come and say because he is nice....

Have you ever heard of the word "EMPATHY" it means, in short, do unto others as though you would like for them to do unto you. <<

naitsirch79....either post your work publicly here and face the consequences...or submit it for moderation/approval and face the consequences.

If you desire criticism you will get it.

....and you did.

The reason I do not post space scenes of my own doing is exactly because I KNOW they will look like crap.....why?....because I know they are hard to pull off well.

If you realise exactly how hard they are to do you would not be submitting this as is.

well first off, I have gotten good response from gfxartist and deviantart

one 5 out of 7. so it must not be "that bad"...

could I improve yes. but give me things that could make it better...don't just throw off some snide comment. if it looks "unrealistic" give a solution to why you feel that way....for the most part I agree with what you say, but would love the solution on how I could improve, not a corilation to my youthfulness...., jj

lets just be cool...

Change the 'balance'

Improve depth perception

Remove cartoon-like colouring

Spots for distant stars look unnaturally even

Blotch at upper left looks nothing more than a 'blotch'...... what is it?

Ask yourself would anyone REALLY want this as their wallpaper, and if so, for how long?

 

Remember yet once more that you are supposed to be submitting wallpapers not enrolling in Digital Art 101.

 

I'd strongly suggest you keep practising.  Give up on this and start anew, as rehashing a 'bad idea' will just end up with a 'rehashed bad idea'...

goodmorphing.....don't worry that people will want to hit back at criticism...and in this case me.....I'm quite used to it.....

it could be me, but I kind see any picture...

naitsirch79, get yourself bryce, solves your problem, it isn't THAT expensive, and you dont have to learn much for it.

Ok wait hold on,

First off, Thanks that helps

lets break this back down...

Depth Perception... I guess moving the planet and what not a little to the right and up should do the trick, and I know, I have to fix those damn nebula's

"cartoon like coloring" actually this is textured pretty well. are you referring to the nebulas' because if you are I kinda see your point, other than that the planet is not cartoon colored. The other rist is a little bright with blue but that can be changed easily. Also the breaking planet "cracks" can easily be taken out or at least darkened up. with out them it looks more realistic to the planet, with them looks unrealistic but oh so cool...I can also tone done the colors of the rings as well, but hey Uranius has some pretty cool rings...I think I will leave them...


Spots for distant stars, I am guessing I need more of a "blurred look for stars that are in the distance. That should be easy enough to do with another set of stars and this time blurr them.
"blotch at upper left" hmmmm,,,,I could work on this I guess to make it better, but if you read the story, it is the planets lightsource, so I will have to make it better or move and rotate it around, kinda matching it up with the astroid.

who is Bryce,... I have a frind named bryce...


anywebsite for that...

well heck I would like a look but the link isn't showing up?

mmm...

naitsirch, not knowing your back ground as far as art goes I will make a couple of suggestions that might help some.

Checking out some Architectural Design and something on Perspective Drawing can help even the best artist as reference and understanding the positioning of things, shading and such.

As Jafo states Composition is also a key feature in any work of art.

Anything you take up to do should have a concise plan of attack. be it art, a job, mowing the lawn and so forth.

Do some sketchs with possible layouts of key elements, know that a lot of clutter will draw attention away from the key point your wish peoples eyes to rest upon most.

Colors will draw eyes away and also fits right in there with clutter. Detail of focus helps keep attention where you would like it to stay. If you take three balls and line them up along a path leading to a vanishing point you would probably want sharper focus placed on the one closest to you and the least on the farthest.

whats you screen name at Deviant and I can go take a look there if the link doesn't show up after I reload the site updates?

well I guess you dinked it? got an error finding the server (DNS)

ok it is naitsirch79

and I use www.domainlx.com which is cool and free but not always reliable...They say unlimited bandwidth but HAAAAAAAA, yea right...you get what you pay for and hey this was free so what can I say...

nah it is there I can see it, hmmmmmm

It is my best work, so far so nah I ain't dinking this baby, we are going to fix it...

'Fixing it' may be a career path. I think you need to look at NASA's website or similar for 'inspiration'. This wall will need a considerable amount of 'fixing' before it is likely to be accepted here...

Here are some real space shots:

http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/photo_gallery/

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/

http://hubblesite.org/gallery/

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/archivepix.html

Change the 'balance'Improve depth perceptionSpots for distant stars look unnaturally even

I agree here with Jafo.

And:
Those 4 starsystems are too much alike, make 4 different ones rather than copy and paste.
Make sure you have ONE lightsource on your main item, the globe, including those rings. Saturate the rings towards the back (That is make the colour colder). Saturate the middle of the globe, that is make those colours warmer, so that you improve the depth.
Get rid of all those shiny red and white dots, grey would be much better.
Get rid of the white circle around the small globe, work on the reality of that globe including the shade on the main globe. I probably can think of more things, but this will make it look a lot better if you try.

And Naitsirch, as much as I defended you, because you were pretty cool about how you handled the comments, it is not necessary to start yelling to jafo, although his childish statement went too far for me too. Good criticism OK, but calling names BLAH, even if a moderator does it I think BLAH too.