Windows Live Essentials Beta and Internet Explorer 9 Preview 3

I don't use Live Essentials at all, and my preferred browser is Opera.

So... So what?

IE 8 really sucks (surprise!) but IE 9 certainly seems promising. There is still hope for a total opposite of IE 6.

I don't know what live essentials are and after staring at the IE9 page and checking out a couple of their links I was left scrathing my head and wondering why is the information informative and to whom.

Yeah complain about microsoft... But continue using it...   Wake up people...  Its been the best option out there since dawn of time, if you want expandability and support...  Linux has benefits, but you have to be a guru for it, and Mac is for idiots...  Macs still crash, they just dont tell you, they just freeze... and Try to find 1/2 the amount of support software, and liek 1/5 amnunt of hardware for mac...  Mac knows outside Ipods and Iphones, they suck balls, and managed you use those two OVERLY expensive products to keep them alive...

Some of you Undergound "followers are a joke, you know just enough to be dangerous, but in fact know nothing more then the comercials you watch... Truely pathetic.

Live Sync is really nice and worth a spin if you need to connect to remote desktops or share files.  I've never used anything like it so easily.

 What has it to do with browsers exactly, you say?

I use IE so I looked at the preview.  It seems that browsers, atleast in someones mind, need to be/do more than what a browser first started out to do.  Am I wrong? 

Have you ever used Team Viewer?

I use it to remotely control my family's PCs when they need help. Is LiveSync like that?

The Windows Live Mail beta is quite slick! I am loving the smooth animations and clean interface. If only I could tolerate the quirks of GMail via IMAP (multiple copies of emails due to labels system, properly removing the inbox labels when trashing messages, etc.), I would use the new Live Mail for Hotmail and GMail, instead of just Hotmail.

I like the new Photo Gallery, dislike the new Messenger and Writer.

People doesn't use the web the same way as when the internets began. It's not like we still use it to read just text.

Too bad they appear to have eliminated the colorize feature, which was in either all of them or just live mail in the current gold version. Now, if they tweak the new beta and add the colorize feature just before it goes GOLD, then I will of course upgrade. But for now, I really doubt it.

Sounds like a potential WindowBlinds customer! *hint hint*

I took a look at "live essentials" and I don't use any of that stuff. guess if I wasn't retired it could be different but...

does anyone have a clue as to what or whom this idiot is talking about in regards to this thread??? And for the record I only use IE, don't own an iphone or ipad and my ipod is a 4gig black nano purchased in 2005

there have been many really good improvements for browsers however some of that technology has been bastardized to bring you animated/video ads and marketing cookies (tracking). I can block cookies and disable flash but with HTML5 I'm concerned that I may lose those abilities.

Don't use the IMAP setup.  It's absolutely awful.  Set your accounts up as regular internet email and the problems will go away.  The settings are published but here they are for those who need them for GMail:

Server settings:  pop.gmail.com; smtp.gmail.com; Put a check on "My server requires authentication."

Under Advanced:  SMTP = 465; POP = 995.  Select "This server requires a secure connection (SSL)" for both SMTP and POP.

Once you set it up that way, it will behave nicely and works much like Outlook Express or Windows Mail but better.  I really disliked WLM when it first came out but it's gotten much better. 

For those who use Yahoo mail, YPOPS is still around but haven't used it in a long time.  I don't use Hotmail but I would check to see if you can avoid using IMAP settings and set that up like Gmail if needed. 

IE 9 is supposed to be faster and hog less memory - any comments?

Will have to wait until it comes out of beta to find out.

Yeah, they have a lot of security issues with this beta, like using someone's Live/Hotmail account address to send tons of unsolicited emails out, and ever since I installed the last version of Live Messenger, I have been getting lots of requests from what are supposedly women wanting me to view their "hot" bodies on web site links, add them as friends, etc.  I don't need that kind of crap. I will wait until it comes out of beta.

Just tried it and it is impressive, although the browser renders WC oddly....Tom...send me them wimmenz!

Forcing render in ie7 format (debug) 'solved' the problem.