So-Called Republican 'Leaders' are Cowards, NOT Leaders

Joe Barton

I'm 61, a Republican since Nixon lost to Kennedy.  I've never been more ashamed to be a Republican than when Boehner and other Republican leaders threw Joe Barton under the bus for speaking his honest opinion, not to mention the truth, about the 'shakedown' of BP.  Not even during the height of Watergate.  I can't believe what cowards our party's so-called 'leaders' are.

The Constitutional issues here are real and deserve to have a very bright light shined on them.  Boehner & McConnell are the ones who should be ashamed, allowing crass political correctness to trump their sworn oath.  I can't believe they're going to stand by, silently complicit in trashing the 5th Amendment.  They're as out of touch with reality (and me) as any Democrat lefty.

If you agree, join me in showering them with irate email & snailmail.

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I already sent a letter to my congressman about that.  his name is Eric Cantor and he is one of the ring leaders!  I wish I had some one to vote for this election, but I cant vote for a democrat and I refuse to vote for Cantor!!!!

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If Barton had posted his comments, he would be a troll.

Those people in the Gulf can't wait for red tape bullshit. Why don't you ask them if they don't like it? It's not as if the Mafia is involved, for Christ's sake. Lighten up.

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Guess we know where you stand on due process, Infidel.  Furthermore, they've added red tape, not cut through it, finding ways to delay & obstruct effective measures on dubious grounds.

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I don't like Obama at all and I think hes done a real rat shit job, but I don't think any Americans owe an apology to the rats at BP.

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It's one thing to defend their actions, which I don't, and quite another to treat the company extra-legally, for which an apology would be in order.

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Quoting Daiwa, reply 5
It's one thing to defend their actions, which I don't, and quite another to treat the company extra-legally, for which an apology would be in order.
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Indeed, Barton was not excusing their action.  But what the Obama administration and most of his brain dead trolls fail to realize is that the ones that are suffering are not Heyward and the fat cats.  But the English AND American pensioners that just got the GM Shaft.  Obama is good at shafting everyone and then pointing fingers to try to escape the blame for his incompetence.

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As someone who called into C-SPAN said during the first break after Barton's comments: "I guess we know who's in the pocket of big oil."

Barton has received over $100k from BP.

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Quoting Infidel, reply 7
As someone who called into C-SPAN said during the first break after Barton's comments: "I guess we know who's in the pocket of big oil."

Barton has received over $100k from BP.
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Obama has received over $1 million.  is that why he is being so incompetent over the whole issue?

Stupid is as Stupid does.

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I can't believe they're going to stand by, silently complicit in trashing the 5th Amendment.  They're as out of touch with reality (and me) as any Democrat lefty.
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So in other words the government shouldn't listen to the people who are affected?

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So in other words the government shouldn't listen to the people who are affected?
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Oh, they listened to Jindal just great, dontcha think?

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I doubt BP would have leaped to secure a deal for 20b unless it was a cap on liability.  They get off cheap for 20b when you consider the magnitude of what they have done in the Gulf. If you think Tony Hayworth and BP deserve an apology, then go read some of their internal documents. start with the 'three little pigs' model and work your way to the worst case scenario 100,000 bpd into the gulf... then watch Barton's pathetic apology to Tony Hayworth again and see if you feel the same way.

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Thank you, Anthony!

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You and Infidel are talking apples & oranges, Anthony.

I happen to agree there is only one reason BP would agree to the 'shakedown' - to offload the administrative cost and limit their liability exposure.  But if you were BP, you'd look to do exactly the same thing if given the option.  The fiduciary responsibility to shareholders would demand it.

My point is that the administration gave BP the cover to do just that, while trashing due process, to which BP should have been subjected.  They should never have been given the option.

Allowed to stand, there is nothing to stop this or any other administration from ignoring due process and confiscating whatever it wants for whatever reason it gins up.  You might not like it so much with a less 'evil' 'perp'.

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Quoting Anthony, reply 11
I doubt BP would have leaped to secure a deal for 20b unless it was a cap on liability.  They get off cheap for 20b when you consider the magnitude of what they have done in the Gulf. If you think Tony Hayworth and BP deserve an apology, then go read some of their internal documents. start with the 'three little pigs' model and work your way to the worst case scenario 100,000 bpd into the gulf... then watch Barton's pathetic apology to Tony Hayworth again and see if you feel the same way.
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Remember that next time the local government fines you for the cost of a clean-up - before they clean it up.

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Obama has received over $1 million. is that why he is being so incompetent over the whole issue?
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Obama isn't from Texas. Barton, like Bush, has that big oil mentality.

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Oh, well that explains everything.

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Oh, well that explains everything.
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I knew you'd see it my way.

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Obama isn't from Texas.
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Thank God he's from Chicago.  Way better than being from Texas.  No corruption in Chicago, no siree bob.

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Quoting Infidel, reply 15

Obama has received over $1 million. is that why he is being so incompetent over the whole issue?
Obama isn't from Texas. Barton, like Bush, has that big oil mentality.
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Stupid is as stupid does.  So Obama is Al Capone?  By your logic he must be.  They are both from Chicago.

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Thank God he's from Chicago.  Way better than being from Texas.  No corruption in Chicago, no siree bob.
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So Obama is Al Capone? By your logic he must be. They are both from Chicago.
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He's not Italian.

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He's not Italian.
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You don't really know that. ;)

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I happen to agree there is only one reason BP would agree to the 'shakedown'
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Then we basically agree. We see more and more by the day that BP came away stronger as a result of the 20b dollar deal. That makes Barton's apology ridiculous and insulting. The idea that the cutthroats at BP could be 'shaken down' by a two bit face-man like Obama is ridiculous. My impression of the BP execs is that they could leave Obama naked in a barrel in 2 seconds flat. I do agree with Infidel that the contributions are relevant campaign issues. That would definitely taint Barton, but the largest recipient of BP cash is Obama.

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You don't really know that.
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I can tell just by looking at him.

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My impression of the BP execs is that they could leave Obama naked in a barrel in 2 seconds flat.
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I'd suspend the 5th Amendment for that. :thumbsup:

Seriously, what one thinks of BP &/or its execs is not the point.  Either the Constitution is The Constitution or it's toilet paper.  Between the Kelo decision & this, I don't see what's to prevent ChavezObama from taking anything he wants from anybody he wants.

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I can't believe they're going to stand by, silently complicit in trashing the 5th Amendment.
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wonder how the founders reacted to the gradually expanded notion that natural individual person = corporation...besides rotating in their graves at an increasingly rapid velocity until there long ago ceased to be any remnants therein remaining.

i also wonder how any serious man or woman of authentic american conservative political persuasion who would in any other circumstance claim to be fully supportive of state vs federal sovereignty and just as fully opposed to judicial legislation is somehow able to accept--much worse endorse--the bizarre notion our constitution affords the same rights and protections to corporations as it does natural persons.

next thing ya know the 5th amendment will be voided by enemies of freedom forcing corporate entities to incriminate themselves.