BP needs to really step up in helping watermen...

Having grown up on the water and seen the life of the waterman up close (thanks granddad!), I really feel for the people of the gulfcoast region that are seeing their lives turned completely upside down from the blown oil well there.  The damage that has been done to the environment there is, obviously, going to have an impact for years to come.

My co-worker mentioned that it seems to him that he won't be eating shrimp -- at least not gulf shrimp (excluding farm raised) -- for many years, if not decades.  Knowing how much oil is polluting the sea creatures there, it'll be a long time before anyone can trust that the seafood from that area is safe to consume.  Even if the government deems it so, it'll still be questionable in many people's minds, and honestly I don't blame them.

BP has the obligation and responsibility to clean the mess up and repair the damage they have caused and are doing.  They're trying to do that now, though they've been slower at finding a solution than anyone would really like.  Meanwhile, sadly, the watermen that made a living catching seafood from the region have seen their livelyhood ruined.  They can't catch anything without fearing that what they haul in has been tainted by the oil, and even if they could catch something, the buyers are likely under orders not to buy any of the products.

At this point, BP should be setting up annuity payments -- insurance settlements -- for the affected watermen with monthly or perhaps even weekly payments that provide those individuals regular income.  Not big, one time, lump-sum payments, but regular income at an equivalent level to what they would have taken home before.  Tax-free payments (if done as insurance payments) that will help provide for those people's needs for at least a decade so that those people can continue to make the payments on their boats, cars, homes and schooling and such.

Meanwhile, BP should also, as suggested by my co-worker, be taking those same individuals and putting them to work with jobs with taxable incomes (perhaps they should do a hybrid solution with the annuities that I mention above so that part of the income is taxable while part isn't, but the end result would be an equivalent level of income to what they had previously).  Putting them to work doing what?  Cleaning up the mess.  Scrubbing down wildlife, sucking up crude with giant vacuums or strainers, or whatever they'll wind up using.  Whatever tasks they can put them to work doing even if that work is not going to be permanent.

The situation in the gulf is tragic, but it shouldn't be allowed to ruin the lives of the people there, and it certainly shouldn't be costing tax-payers in the U.S. or that region a penny.  Every bit of the cost should be born by BP and can come out of the billion$ of dollar$ in profit that BP rakes in.

Enough said.

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BP will pay about 200% of the cost.  The government will pocket the rest.  The fisherman will lose a season, but otherwise not be affected.  Hurricanes have done them worse.  The American public will pay by far the most.  Watch at the pumps as more of your money goes to the Middle East for oil, and of course the taxes already being discussed in congress.

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I'm going to disagree with you a bit.  Certainly this is a terrible tragedy!

I DO think the gov't should be helping in this process and should also get a little bit of the responsibility.  Why is BP way out there in Gulf drilling and not closer to shore or even on shore?  EPA.  As a result a simple leak (yes it is that simple) could have been easily dealt with at a shallow level.  This being at a depth no divers can go to and live makes something so simple VERY complicated. Let us not also forget that the Gov't blocked the idea of putting in some sand berms in to help prevent the spread of oil coming on shore.

I'm not trying to take BP off the hook here.  I like some of your suggestions of employing the watermen who were put out of work to help with the clean up.  I do believe there is some of this idea being implemented. 

I'm just seeing this administration who wants to control health care, cap n trade, the energy usage in our house, so quick to do so little in leadership to help in this situation.  Obama is NOW finally going to go down to LA to see the damage.  I remember the crap Bush got for Katrina. Different situations... yeah, but still if he was concerned about the people like you are suggesting BP should be.  

Before the lefties go off on me here is my perspective of what gov't is supposed to do.

-Protect our borders

-Have a kick butt military

-Be there when there are major disasters, hurricane, tornadoes, oil spills.


They can do all these things and still remain small.

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Not only will the watermen be affected but also any business that depends on the ocean like restaurants & stores and not only depend on the ocean in the form of food but also tourism. People will not travel for vacation to places they can or won't swim in the beach or be able to eat without worrying the food may be tainted, not to mention the water they drink from rivers connected to the Gulf where people will assume the oil may move upstream because you never really know.

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Quoting CharlesCS, reply 3
Not only will the watermen be affected but also any business that depends on the ocean like restaurants & stores and not only depend on the ocean in the form of food but also tourism. People will not travel for vacation to places they can or won't swim in the beach or be able to eat without worrying the food may be tainted, not to mention the water they drink from rivers connected to the Gulf where people will assume the oil may move upstream because you never really know.

It will be a bad year for them, but as I said, they have seen worse.  Most are real Americans - i.e., they are not looking for a handout, just for government to get out of their way.  The compensation they should be getting from BP will find its way to the SIEU under the Obama regime.

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Terp, you've been writing some good articles!  Terp and Doc, you both are optimistic, though, I will say this:  this oil is of heavy grade oil which means if nothing is done it'll become very sticky.  The gulf usually produces a lighter crude oil but this was deep under the water. 

 

Quoting Adventure-Dude, reply 2


I'm going to disagree with you a bit.  Certainly this is a terrible tragedy!
I DO think the gov't should be helping in this process and should also get a little bit of the responsibility.  Why is BP way out there in Gulf drilling and not closer to shore or even on shore?  EPA.  As a result a simple leak (yes it is that simple) could have been easily dealt with at a shallow level.  This being at a depth no divers can go to and live makes something so simple VERY complicated. Let us not also forget that the Gov't blocked the idea of putting in some sand berms in to help prevent the spread of oil coming on shore.
I'm not trying to take BP off the hook here.  I like some of your suggestions of employing the watermen who were put out of work to help with the clean up.  I do believe there is some of this idea being implemented. 
I'm just seeing this administration who wants to control health care, cap n trade, the energy usage in our house, so quick to do so little in leadership to help in this situation.  Obama is NOW finally going to go down to LA to see the damage.  I remember the crap Bush got for Katrina. Different situations... yeah, but still if he was concerned about the people like you are suggesting BP should be.  
Before the lefties go off on me here is my perspective of what gov't is supposed to do.
-Protect our borders
-Have a kick butt military
-Be there when there are major disasters, hurricane, tornadoes, oil spills.
They can do all these things and still remain small.

I agree with your thoughts on what the government should do.  I remember when this first happened didn't Obama say something to the extent I'm going to let BP handle this?  Didn't he say that or something close to that?  I've been trying to google and find it but to no advail.

Its funny how Obama got the most support from BP than any of the other candidates but no seems to be currently mentioning that. Remember, Haliburton and Cheney and the mess.  Yet, no mention of Obama and BP bed buddies.

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Yet, no mention of Obama and BP bed buddies.

If you are looking for that in the MSM, you will never find it.  But the alternate media is abuzz with it.

As far as my optimism, while i lost faith in the American government, I have not lost faith in the American people.  Most americans (in the fly over country) are winners.  They do not know how to be victims, and so they will persevere.

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As far as my optimism, while i lost faith in the American government, I have not lost faith in the American people. Most americans (in the fly over country) are winners. They do not know how to be victims, and so they will persevere.

Tragic events reveal the character of the people.  It's amazing to me how many are already running out for hand outs (even terp is talking about annuity payments) while others (watermen) are teaming up in order to help out.  The problem right now as Jindal just pointed out yesterday is that the Feds are holding up the process for building sand berms/traps for the oil. 

Seems to me that Holder and Obama are more interested in what they know best.  Civil and criminal lawsuits.  Kind of reminds me of the old lib lawyers and police officers that during rush hour wouldn't want anyone to be able to move so that they can investigate the accident.  Rest of the people be damned even though they are championing that they are gonna throw the book at the offender while those effected are totally hosed stuck on the freeway!

But don't worry.... they're from the gov't and they're here to help.

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Its funny how Obama got the most support from BP than any of the other candidates but no seems to be currently mentioning that. Remember, Haliburton and Cheney and the mess. Yet, no mention of Obama and BP bed buddies.

However PP don't forget they brought up how this is Bush's fault as well as Cheney because they YET AGAIN made the connection with Cheney and Haliburton.  The hypocrisy is beyond pathetic.

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It's amazing to me how many are already running out for hand outs (even terp is talking about annuity payments) while others (watermen) are teaming up in order to help out. The problem right now as Jindal just pointed out yesterday is that the Feds are holding up the process for building sand berms/traps for the oil.

Louisiana is a bi-polar state.  On the one hand, you have the victims of NO.  On the other, you have the instilled independence of a southern state (everywhere but NO).  You are going to find victims in any state.  But the state is not a victim, and Jindal is trying to let the doers do, instead of the leeches suck.

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Funny thing, I found out.  The platform is owned AND operated by TransOcean.  It isn't even BP's the only association with BP is that BP leases the platform from TransOcean. 

A Swiss company is responsible but BP is taking the brunt of this.

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A Swiss company is responsible but BP is taking the brunt of this.

The Lease is BPs, and that is why.  The mistake was probably Transocean, but the responsibility is the lease holder.

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The Lease is BPs, and that is why. The mistake was probably Transocean, but the responsibility is the lease holder.

How is that?  If I lease a house and it blows up from a gas line that I didn't mess with, I'm not liable.  If I lease a car and there was a manufacturing defect, again I'm not liable.  The pressure release valves were found to be faulty, just as if it was a gas pedal on a Toyota?

 

 

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If I lease a house and it blows up from a gas line that I didn't mess with, I'm not liable

But if you were the one that contracted to put that gas line in, you are.  BP contracted to put the line in.

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But if you were the one that contracted to put that gas line in, you are. BP contracted to put the line in.

BP got the mineral rights from MMS in March of 2008.  BP contracted TransOcean and Haliburton for the drilling and lease of the platform.  Again if I am leasing a house and I contract the gas company to put in the gas... how would I be responsible?  The platform is owned and operated by TransOcean leased by BP until 2013. 

Maybe I'm missing it but I still do not see how BP is responsible. 

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Again if I am leasing a house and I contract the gas company to put in the gas... how would I be responsible?

Because you made the change to the house.  The lessor is going to sue you.  Now you can sue the gas company, but the lessor has no relationship with the gas company.  So the US will sue BP, BP may sue Transocean (that is their right).  But the US has no relationship with Transocean.

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Because you made the change to the house. The lessor is going to sue you. Now you can sue the gas company, but the lessor has no relationship with the gas company. So the US will sue BP, BP may sue Transocean (that is their right). But the US has no relationship with Transocean.

Ah ok.  Well, that does make a bit more sense.  Thanks Doc.  I do know that BP is working with Transocean to pay up in addition to the catastrophe insurance they have. 

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Ah ok. Well, that does make a bit more sense.

That is what I get for marrying a paralegal. ;)