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You're gonna have to prove you're American to be my President

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It looks like Arizona is on a role as they recently passed the Arizona Immigration Enforcement Bill that gives local police authority to enforce immigration laws but also are in the works to pass a bill that will force President Obama and future Presidential candidates to provide a birth certificate in order to "appear on the ballot in Arizona". Link

So, if they do manage to get this passed, will we finally put this debate to rest? It's a shame considering Obama ran under the impression that his Administration would be a transparent one yet we still have not been able to prove if he was born here?

To be fair I have to ask, how is it that we have not been able to do this all this time? How was Obama able to get the jobs he has without a birth certificate? For that matter how was he able to run for President? I mean, he may be able to keep his birth certificate from being exposed to the public but I doubt he can keep it from the Gov't while trying to become a Senator or a President. I just don't see how he could have become President while not being born here, otherwise if he did manage to get away with it I would be very disappointed with this Nation.

I don't mind this bill being passed just to put this debate to rest already and to avoid future problems.

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Reply #51 from JoeUser Forums Top

American English has more words than any other language (including the Royal English) because we take words from every other language.

I beg to differ. there are so many nuances in the native language that you haven't integrated yet in english.

If you speak french, you should know that, Guy. :)

(I will adress your comments later on, but I just love this conversation. Told ya I ain't again talking about my own homeland, even if you criticise it :D)

Reply #52 from Stardock Forums Top

One thing can't be denied about this bill that is positive. It's got this Administration scrabbling for a Federal solution as this bill being passed basically is proof of the failure of this and the previous Administration when it comes to this particular issue.

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Reply #53 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting ChuckCS, reply 52
One thing can't be denied about this bill that is positive. It's got this Administration scrabbling for a Federal solution as this bill being passed basically is proof of the failure of this and the previous Administration when it comes to this particular issue.

Chuck, I fear anything the Federal Govt. comes up with will end up being unenforced as seems to be the norm.

Reply #54 from JoeUser Forums Top

Chuck, I fear anything the Federal Govt. comes up with will end up being unenforced as seems to be the norm.

It will be enforced it pressure is made to enforce it.

Wether you accept the Federal justice system's ruling or not is up to you. Again, Obama produced documentation already, and some people on this blog (or in the street) aren't accepting these proofs.

It is my sentiment that even if a court officially declared Obama's documentation as acceptable proof, these people would still deny the acceptance.

Btw, don't you have to procure, you know, some documentation about your identity when you propose your candidacy to be President? Don't the Secret Services do an investigation on you to make sure you won't damage the office of the POTUS?

Reply #55 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Cikomyr, reply 51

I beg to differ. there are so many nuances in the native language that you haven't integrated yet in english.

If you speak french, you should know that, Guy.

(I will adress your comments later on, but I just love this conversation. Told ya I ain't again talking about my own homeland, even if you criticise it )

I did not mean to imply American English has absorbed all languages, just that we take words from all languages and put them into our language as just another entry in the dictionary.  So of course there are going to be plenty of words in French, Spanish, Russian, etc. that are not in English. But English has a lot of words from those languages that are part of the every day vocabulary of Americans.

Reply #56 from JoeUser Forums Top

Quoting Cikomyr, reply 54

It will be enforced it pressure is made to enforce it.

Wether you accept the Federal justice system's ruling or not is up to you. Again, Obama produced documentation already, and some people on this blog (or in the street) aren't accepting these proofs.

It is my sentiment that even if a court officially declared Obama's documentation as acceptable proof, these people would still deny the acceptance.

Btw, don't you have to procure, you know, some documentation about your identity when you propose your candidacy to be President? Don't the Secret Services do an investigation on you to make sure you won't damage the office of the POTUS?

I think they slipped gears on you Cikomyr.  Charles is talking about what Arizona did outside of the "Obama-law", i.e. the immigration bill they passed into law.  That is spurring the feds to do something, which Nitro says will just not be enforced (whatever is passed).  I tend to agree with him and Charles.  It will precipitate some type of action in Washington because they have to do something, but Obama does not want to address the issue, so whatever is passed will be ignored.

As for the documentation, I do not think you have to produce anything but a bunch of signatures.  That is why we have scandals after all. ;)