I agree but this is one of those situations where I am truly scared of the possibility of him not being a born citizen. I am not sure I want to know. This could truly crush my patriotism. I can tolerate people voting for an idiot for President but for a not-born-in-the-US person to become President because we did not put enough importance to this is not only the most scariest thing I can imagine but a National Security threat as far as I'm concerned. Just the thought of it makes me lose faith in my country.

one more thing-

It doesn't really matter what they do in Arizona. He will just sign an executive order delcaring Arizona to be a state full of dumb, redneck hillbillies. 

Probably, the civil unrest would definitely be big, especially with the Tea Partiers. They will be the ones most people will fear the most.

I figured the same which is why i said if they do manage to get this passed. But it's not like something like a little law can stop this Administration from getting what they want.

BTW, nice to see you still around. I can't help but ask how come you usually only show your face in my articles? How come you don';t comment on other articles? Just wondering.

This morning I thought the lies had all caught up with Obama when I saw the Fox news flash: "Arrest warrant issued for Hussein" I was disappointed to learn that it was actually for Saddam's daughter.

A birth certificate, which up until now he has not provided according to the Media but as I stated I have doubts he could have been even a Senator without it so I did give him the benefit of the doubt in my article. Did I not?

Care to link where this has been mentioned cause till now I have yet to hear anything about him providing the birth certificate he refused to make public before. Please provide a link or source and we can then take this more seriously.

Don't ask me, ask Arizona. They the ones wanting this bill passed. While, again, I doubt Obama could be anything other than an American born here (doesn't mean it's not possible he isn't) I have to wonder why Arizona politicians would want to require this. I seriously doubt politicians could be this stupid to forcefully request a document thru legal means that, according to you (no source provided), has already been provided. There has to be a reason such a request is being made thru legal channels. Otherwise what would be the point to go thru all of this, publicly, just to force someone to provide a document that has already been provided? To justify their budget? That would definitely be sad regardless what party they are from.

The following links show how so far no certificate has been provided:

Link

Link

I think the question should rather be, if the proof has been provided, and certified by third-parties, as stated here

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/

and here

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

why are people asking for further proof?

You claim that the president should yield to the people asking him for proofs of his birth in the USA. If he had never provided such proof, I'd be with you. But he had. And people as still asking him for proof, even if such proof has already been provided.

As for your two original links, they don't actually say anything, except that people are harassing the state of Hawaii to divulge what the SoH considers private document, and the SoH hasn't yet.

No, because you insist on asking for document which equivalent has already been released and certified, out of a petty political grudge worthy of those who accused Bush of wacking off during Vietnam.

From what I understand this document is not the original but a duplicate (legal duplicate) and people still have doubts. But these doubts would probably not exist if he did not try so hard to keep the original document hidden. Tell me Cikomyr, what good reason would he have to be so persistent about hiding the document? What harm would it cause to show it? Makes no sense to me, perhaps you have a good reason, and I don't mean "because he wants to" reasoning.

I am not insisting, this article is not about me being persistent over this birth certificate debate but about Arizona trying to pass a bill requiring Presidential candidates to provide a birth certificate. How ever I can't ignore that Obama and his people are trying really hard to keep that document public and I don't see any legit reason why?

Let me ask you, what if the document he refuses to show tells a different story? What if Obama ran under a lie? Not everyone is saying he is although some believe he is lying. But I believe this kind of issue should be resolved and only Obama can do that by simply showing the original which I have yet to figure out why he refuses. I just can't find any good reason except he just doesn't want to and if so then just say it and that would be good enough for me.

One other point to be made - for the benefit of Cikomyr and others.

At this point I really do not care if Obama is or is not legal.  He is president.  But I applaud Arizona and hope other states follow suit so that there will never again be the controversy we have today, period! 

Cikomyr - I'm not a regular around here anymore but if memory serves me ... you aren't a US citizen - right?

It is important to question government. It is important to question them at every move, rule or ruling. Without and adequate check system, we might as well roll over and take it up the ass because we are bound to get screwed.

Politicians in America serve their own special interests no mater wich side of the isle they sit on. They are ready to sell out to the highest bidder in the event they need to get things done.

We the people are left to keep them in check. Since we don't get to vote for them daily, we have to make our vioces heard. Even if that means you are questioning the right of someone to serve as POTUS.

Doc - they are hardly babies anymore. They are almost 3.5 yrs old. CRAZY!

I have recently joined the ranks of the mentally insane. I started coaching them and 11 others in T-ball.

And the mindless insults begin. Keep going, you'll soon join those who say I get a hard thinking about american soldiers getting killed.

You don't know me, you don't know my people. You don't know the least thing about our history.