Beta 1Z next week…

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Greeetings!

I’m pleased to say that I believe we’re nearing the end of Beta 1.  Sometime next week we PLAN to release beta 1Z which is a very major gameplay update to Elemental (i.e. more radical than any previous beta).

Shortly after this beta, we will have a vote by the beta team to determine whether they believe the game is ready for Beta 2 (the multiplayer beta).

The vote will require 75% of beta testers to agree to go to beta 2.

What is the criteria? If after playing the beta of 1Z, if it is 33% of the way or more towards completion then you would vote  yes to go to beta 2. Otherwise, you would vote no and we would delay beta 2 for another build and discuss what needs to be done to reach beta 2.

If 75% of the beta group agrees to beta 2, then we would schedule a beta 2 approximately 2 weeks later which would begin the multiplayer phase of the beta testing (still cloth map mode only).  After a few weeks of testing that, we would again vote to see if we’re ready to go to beta 3 (the actual graphics engine mode).

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Reply #2 Top

So just curious, what will the name of the next beta build after 1Z be if we don't think it's ready for 2? 1AA? 1 Z and a half?:P

Reply #4 Top

Quoting kyogre12, reply 2
So just curious, what will the name of the next beta build after 1Z be if we don't think it's ready for 2? 1AA? 1 Z and a half?

1Z.2  :p

So hopefully quests are actually in Beta Z in a way in which we can see them?

Before advancing to beta 2 personally I'd like to see:

  • Better stability and game save/loading 100%
  • CORE mechanics nailed down (Quest system implemented & testable, hero recruitment functionality)

 

 

Reply #5 Top

Bring it on! :D [...hopefully all of the crash related issues have been fixed for 1Z, because I am still having random crashes in the latest build.] .. just wondering..how will this voting work? We must vote here, on the forum..or? :frogboy:

Reply #6 Top

Hmm, will this fix the not getting archivements for things done yet in Beta1? i have won a game, lost a game and managed to save and load. ;)

didnt make a bugpost on it, as i was not sure it was in yet, even if Elemental showed up under locked archivements. ;)

 

But, I really cant wait now. Will be nice to try out 1Z and 1? (last one if it comes).

Reply #7 Top

  Very nice.  Just curious as to how many beta testers there are out there anyway?  *_* Also thank you for your curteous and quick responces.  I also can't wait to try playing you guys in multiplayer test!

Reply #8 Top

Good things come to those who wait, and heckle constructively whilst waiting...

Reply #9 Top

Hey I finally have free time and its next week! WO! :thumbsup:

Reply #10 Top

Will this be released to more recent pre-orders, or will we still have to wait until Beta 2?

Reply #11 Top

Game saving/loading needs to be solid before it gets my vote, for sure. :)

Reply #12 Top

Frogboy,

Before voting I would like a better idea of what 33% done means.

After moving on to beta 2, are you still open to large changes in the basic gameplay (single player) or does it mean that we think the basic direction on each element is good and it is mostly a refining and adjusting process?

Please define 33%. Some specific benchmarks that you are asking us to sign off on. I agree with your post from the last survey I took - there are some pieces like pregamre setup options, research, and unit design that I think are quite well developed. But like you also said there are some pieces that we all feel have a lot of work.

I appreciate you wanting our input, but I want it to be accurate input - I don't want to bog you down with a lot of extra busy work and keep you from the fun stuff, but I would really like more detail about what you are asking our opinion about. And maybe you were already planning this after 1Z and before Beta 2. Just thought I would make the point now rather than the day you ask people to vote.

 

Thanks!

Reply #13 Top

It's not a legal agreement or something.  Basically, it's a question of whether players think the game still has 2/3rds or less of the way to go.

It doesn't need to be fun. It doesn't even need to be particularly stable. But it should start resembling a game with game mechanics that allow a player to play and eventually win the game.

Reply #14 Top

Without it being somewhat stable or having good game save/load working... it becomes very difficult to even make that determination and I kinda sorta have to default to a NO vote.

Reply #15 Top

If saved games aren't working for you, I would vote no personally.

 

Reply #16 Top

Without it being somewhat stable or having good game save/load working... it becomes very difficult to even make that determination and I kinda sorta have to default to a NO vote.

 

Pretty much this.

 

Also i don't know the status on the Fallen races but it seems to be rather a major feature of the game, so if they are still not in (which i hope not) that would be quite a downside. But to be honest the game really started ressembling like an actual game with the last build, i could almost enjoy it if there was not that memory leak that was crashing the game to desktop after 1 or 2 hours.

Reply #17 Top

Do graphics count in our "percentage" of game completion? Or are we just talking gameplay features only?

 

And I'd probably play 1Z for awhile before voting, so how long will the poll be open?

Reply #18 Top

Grapihcs are definitely NOT gameplay IMO and have more to do with content instead. Graphics have nothing to do with a game's actual mechanics.

Reply #19 Top

damn and i thought you were going to give us beta 2 next week, oh well as long as you stop it from crashing :S

Reply #21 Top

Sorry, I was not intending to go lawyer on you. I just wanted to know if you had any guidelines. Based on the poll I did, I would guess that most people feel that the gameply is 1/3 of the way there. Is the game 1/3 complete with the gameplay where it is and no real graphics to speak of? No.

But we will see what 1Z brings. I would say that if it as big of a step forward as you hint at, I will be voting yes.

Reply #22 Top

To clarify we are grading on the following?

  1. Initial Build: Basic Compatibility
  2. Beta 1A: Initial Gameplay Skeleton
  3. Beta 1B: Initial Economic system Implemented
  4. Beta 1C: Initial AI system Implemented
  5. Beta 1D: Initial Diplomacy system Implemented
  6. Beta 1E: Initial Dynasty system implemented
  7. Beta 1F: Initial Magic system implemented
  8. Beta 1G: Initial Quest system implemented


Reply #23 Top

Quoting Denryu, reply 21
Sorry, I was not intending to go lawyer on you. I just wanted to know if you had any guidelines. Based on the poll I did, I would guess that most people feel that the gameply is 1/3 of the way there. Is the game 1/3 complete with the gameplay where it is and no real graphics to speak of? No.

But we will see what 1Z brings. I would say that if it as big of a step forward as you hint at, I will be voting yes.

I think the game has already some mechanism, you can win, and actually is a "bit" fun. The beta 1G is at 25% I would say. But the save/load problem and available quests are just necessary conditions. At the momen tI can play quests because I use the workaround, but it shouldn't be like that.

 

Reply #24 Top

Quoting Rishkith, reply 4

Quoting kyogre12, reply 2So just curious, what will the name of the next beta build after 1Z be if we don't think it's ready for 2? 1AA? 1 Z and a half?
1Z.2 

So hopefully quests are actually in Beta Z in a way in which we can see them?

Before advancing to beta 2 personally I'd like to see:


Better stability and game save/loading 100%

CORE mechanics nailed down (Quest system implemented & testable, hero recruitment functionality)

 

 

This is a must. Currently very frustrating to have to start from scratch everytime the game crashes.

 

I have yet to have a saved game load successfully

Reply #25 Top

Do I understand correctly: We vote "yes" if we think Beta 1Z is 33% or more the way we think Beta 1Z should be? (And not, for example, if it is 33% or more the way we want the finished product to be?)