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No grasp
period.
Let me see replies how convincible you guys are.
I can argue
You can stop posting now.
imo lower his base speed to da speed and spit damage generally around 100 and lvl 15 to 300 aoe dmg. and either lower ooze damage or the percentage it slows enemies attacks.
I vote for a removal of UB. Period.
If you play him, you should be shot. Multiple times. In the genitals.
I think Teseer is just mad because TB would own every game if there was not a UB.
Remove all the characters. Make the whole game about citadel upgrades and joint unit micro 
P.S. - This is an awesome concept for a game
I think we all know that Queen doesn't spit!
my 2 cents 
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In Starcraft she does! Did I detect a hidden spit/swallow joke?
Hey split lets get a game going, I'll be rook!
UB can be balanced easily, a Rook can crush him, set up a couple tower if beast runs in boulder roll, slam, if he still stays then pop a sigil or get a teammate to teleport in..... and Rook and oak can have a bigger or an even late game impact.
Beast's grasp could be easily balanced if it counted as a stun like Rook's boulder roll or Erebus's charm. The reason grasp is so freakin overpowered is because you can stun chain someone for five or six seconds. If you try and grasp someone that has stun immunity, tough cookies, you need to wait.
Grasp stun time should be reduced at low levels and increased at high levels. There should be a reason to sink points into a higher level grasp.
Grasp should not be cancelable.
Grasp should never interrupt. If you've cast an ability and you are grasped in the middle of it, the casting should continue at the point it was at the time you were grasped when you are released.
Ta-da
She looks like a trashy white bitch, Jon. 
I mean, the whole boobs in a belt thing is cool and everything, but she looks like an old hag.
warcraft / starcraft / command and conquer / age of empires / etc ?
Those games don't exist!
Im confused, you looked at her face?
Didn't see this.
Grasp must be cancelable, it is the only workable way to use Bestial Wrath. eg: Grasp -> Cancel Roar -> Begin attack as stun is done.
Chain stun is bad, agreed.
UB wakness: UB doesn't have an escape move, sure he beats everyone if you trap them in the Spit / Ooze -> Attack -> Grasp -> Spit pattern, but he is pretty easy to gank too.
When you are at the level where you can compensate for UB's lack of an escape plan to avoid dying alot, you also know Sedna and Rook can take you until you get acclimation, and Oak will mess you up if he Pens a spit.
So, I'd say UB is fine except for the stun chain which is cheating the game mechanics, especially if you get 2+ UBs in a game. There was a random 3vs3 I was in recently. 3 UBs vs 3 QoTs. Lol, as soon as level 5 rolled around, I was focused grasped 3 times in a row. That is hilarious only once.
If Grasp is broken, his target should become unstunned. The code is actually there in the ability, it just doesn't trigger, for some reason (lol demigod, nothing works).
UB needs:
- to have his extra +.5 speed moved into Inner Beast instead of starting it (eg, instead of 3/7/10 how it is now, make it 5/10/15)
- Spit either needs an 8 second cooldown or halve Spit's range. Having the range makes Rook an even better counter than he is now, allowing a good Rook to completely shut down an enemy beast. An 8 second cooldown actually makes him "kiteable" because an enemy TB could use an ability, get span on, it comes off of cooldown, use it again, before spat ran off of cooldown
- Remove or halve the -% attack debuff from Ooze.
- Grasp canceles the stun when UB breaks it
That would fix him a lot. UB is almost always the strongest demigod on every map, game mode, and player-count. If he isn't the strongest he is the second or third. 4v4 Levi? Check. 2v2 Prison? Check. And so on. It's stupid. I think all demigods should be brought up to UB's caliber (rather than nerfing him down to everyone else). OF course, Bestial Wrath and stuff could be buffed (:
Yes, UB does need his natural speed as an escape mechanism since he lacks any other one BUT he doesn't need it level one! You don't get ganked level 1. Lacking a good escape mechanism is hardly a "weakness" since it punishes overextending (and a foolproof escape mechanism rewards overextending: see Shield-Port, or Batswarm-Mist-Bite-Batswarm)
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