I am actually saying no such thing.  The system is corrupt because the creation of the system was by corrupt people.  But that does not mean the average schmuck is corrupt, only that they are hampered by the rules and bosses they work for.  There are many whistler blowers, and more that are squashed that you never hear about.  No matter how good the civil servants are, they cannot fix bad laws and intentional corruption (ACORN) that is condoned by the politicians.

It is if you only know what the media talks about.  Have you ever read the Uniting and Strengthening America by Providing Appropriate Tools Required to Intercept and Obstruct Terrorism Act?  You should (well, at least try - it is as dry as the Sahara).  Then you would see several things.

1.  As far as legislation goes, it is not intrusive as was hyped by the hysteria.  And it circumvents no rights as a citizen you already have.

2.  It is as bad as any other piece of legislation written by a bunch of egotists.  Which means it is no worse than we already have, it only consolidates rules in one place to facilitate the prosecution of non-citizens for terrorist acts.

So let me put it to you this way.  Any law written can be abused because the writers are not altruistic.  But the Patriot Act is not intrusive in that if you have not done anything wrong, it cannot get you (and even if you have and are an american citizen, the information gleaned from the act for the most part is not admissible against you).  However, one has to avail themselves of medicine from time to time, so there is no way of avoiding the latest abomination (or Obamination) and be penalized for one simple thing - living.

you mean, the average conservative strawman according to liberal news outlets. Talk to some conservatives and ask them what they think.

Absolutely not. I don't trust them to do so at all.

huh? we should ADMIT that we ARE in a war that the other side declared and attacks us. We admitted it after 9-11, we are refusing to admit it now with some of our enemies. (ex: iran actively funds terrorist organizations that attack the us, and supplies insurgents in iraq). It has nothing to do with believing our elected officials.

What is it with liberals being so anti semtic? its so Ironic that they claim that everyone on the right is an antisemetic KKK member, but all the antisemitism I see comes from the left.

The largest feminist organization refused to run an ad in their magazine showing how powerful women are in israel (and they are... israels second prime minister in 1952 was a woman, and today women are very powerful positions in the military and government).

Green organizations call israel an apartheid state (it isn't) which has nothing to do with the fact that israel is the only industrialized nation in the world with net growth of trees.

the LGBTetc organization keeps on slamming israel for their supposed war crimes (non existent) while in israel gays can marry, adopt children, openly serve in the army, etc. (and homosexuality is of course punishable by death is all muslim states)

Israel is a socialist nation, healthcare is free for all (and collapsing naturally). Education is a total liberal indoctrination fest... Air strikes and attacks are NOT performed whenever there are civilians around, casualties in the last war in lebanon were under 300 lebanese civilians of out 32.66 million, which is 0.0009% of the population. (contrast that with any other war where civilian casualties are typically around 10%... for example, vietnam).

israel is basically a liberal "utopia" (which is why it has such problems... and a tax rate over 70%). but the left hates it with a passion and will believe any lie no matter outlandish about it. For example, the biggest swedish newspaper just published a blood liabel saying that israel kidnaps palestinians to steal their eyes for transplanting in blind jews. They admit that they have no evidence for it but the testimony of one guy... who read it in al jazera... never mind that transplanting an eye (and making it function) is impossible with current medical science...

Strawman argument... no different from a creationist telling me "so you believe life just comes from a rock".

Yes, yes we are. The current administration has done nothing against it or other repressive laws... only added to them.

I keep waiting to see the democrats repeal the patriot act and DMCA (which they passed originally btw) instead of nationalizing healthcare, the banks, the car industry, etc.

How so?  When he showed up 90 minutes late to the meeting?

You're a fool to think the PLO has any interest in a lasting peace, at least one that involves Israel's continued existence.

Tell me one thing the Palestinian's have done to avoid 'completely infuriating' the Israelis.  Although I suppose dead Israelis can't be too infuriated, can they?

Ok, 2 more questions:

1. What was the declaration that Israel made?

2. Where was the formal request for Biden to intercede?

I will add that the last person anyone wants aiding them is the foul mouthed idiot Biden.  I would not want him to negotiate a sewer contract, as he does not have the brains god gave a slug.  But that is just an editorial aside.  Still, given how stupid Biden is, do you not think it was a slap in the face of the Israelis AND PLO for him to even assume he was competant to breath?  He is not SOS, and indeed barely a cognizant being (and the only reason I do not support impeaching Obama).