The Greed Ultimatum Or Inaction

That's because it is "what can I do for me, and my family?" It's the way the country has gone now-a-days. Everyone is out for themselves, which seems logical because who else will be?

I think people are sick and tired of the government, certain people, corporations, etc. They're flat out tired of them and frankly don't give a damn much anymore. They're fighting to survive in a nation that is...problematic. I think some even feel that the American dream is now a myth.

~AJ

Part of the problem is the "green" technology is not yet deveoped enough. This administration is putting the cart before the horse (as you say over-xealous).

I just saw a piece two days ago a company called "Evergreen", it makes solar panels. It is getting ready to ship jobs to China so they can make money. I guess the workers don't want to work for free and the company doesn't want to operate at a loss. This situation would be fine in the old Soviet Union, they often made equipment for years that wasn't needed. History appears to support that that didn't work out to well for them. Workers of the world unite...right? The IRS accepts checks for those that want to give more to the country. I believe they take a pretty good share "for the country" without help. Maybe if they didn't squander the generous helping they do get.

Agreed, not all of it is ready yet - but you would be surprised as to what is. It's remarkable really.

Welcome to capitalism, not to be confused with socialism or communism. >_>

Let me know when you ask for minimum wage at your next job, so you can give back something.  We'll see just how capitalist you are.

Billions have already been poured into "green" technology, and what has it gotten us?  Nada.  It has nothig to do with patriotism, it has everything to do with capitalism.  It just is not economically feasible yet.  The way to make it so is also very painful - and the only honest thing Obama stated during the campaign.

The exodus of the companies is solely due to the liberals attempts to punish them.  Why stay and get burned?  They have been already and the democrats only promise more of the same.  If you want them to stay, treat them as valued members of society instead of pariahs

Dont make me laugh.  Liberals never give, they just take.  But they expect everyone else to give.

Let me know when you ask for an outlandish bonus so you can give back something.

Let me know when you ask for an outlandish bonus so you can give back something.

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Touche! Have another (B)

Ideally that would be nice Steven, though the cynic/realist/pessimist in me can't help but go "yeah...right, that'll happen." I'm optimistic because I want to hold out hope for a more...humane society, so to speak - but sometime it just doesn't look anywhere anywhere close to that.

Nex time you go and take a pay cut or give most of your earnings to people - let me know. Additionally, I've never had a job where I've gotten more than minimum wage and - sorry, this will chafe your willy probably - I still give to charity, essentially shorting myself for the sake of others. I also plan on, if I am successful in my chosen career, to live life modestly. I don't need fancy things, thanks. (What about those fat cat CEOs again?)

Anyways....what's this you were saying about liberals again? Geesh.

Bullshit Doc, as usual, but it's never like you give a damn about proof.

Having observed Doc's growing shril nature lately, I have no doubt he does. It seems to be the common thread with left and right zealots.

You are going to ruin my reputation.

I'm worth every penny they pay me, including bonus (which are taxed at the highest tax rate BTW, why give when they have no problem taking?).

Spoken like a true douche bag that doesn't know what paying taxes is like.

Not going to happen and I'm not advocating that in the first place. I give plenty through taxes and charity. Leave it to a liberal to suggest to someone else to give away their pay check. Aways generous with other peoples money, right. Maybe you'll wake up when mommy stops paying the bills. Good luck with your modest income, I take a big Mac, fries, and a coke.

Blah, blah, blah do some damn reaserch for your damn self college boy it isn't that hard for things that are common knowledge LINK or here that took about two seconds.

College boy?  He never went to college (but he has a doctorate).  He is a leech on society whose giving rivals Kerry, Gore and Obama's i.e. less than 1%.  And he is google impaired.

Maybe he can bing it.

His claim not mine.

Good for you, that's awesome that you do give charity. I applaud your charity contributions.  

Nitro....do you read my replies at all? I stated that I do work (hence I pay taxes).

That aside, my "Touche" comment was because I thought what he said was funny, a zinger if you will. Nevermind that though, right?

Jesus.

Oi, leave it to someone with another knee jerk reaction to blame this all on my being liberal. >_> If you had taken my entire comment in context, you would've realized that I was saying that in jest, as a response to your comment toward me. Hence, you implied that I should (being a liberal) actually contribute to charity, etc. Which, I do. And I was saying, in jest back, why don't you.

And apparently you do, so - cool.

Nitro, you're being a little thick headed.

Doc's point was "Liberals never give," NOT that they give more. Hence, my comment stating "Bullshit." His comment, in its context, was wrong.

Frankly, I don't care who gives most; this isn't a dick contest, size shouldn't matter. It should be about quality of help, not quantity of help. You conservatives said it right - giving money to people doesn't help them; helping them help themselves does.

As I've stated time and time again, what I did FOUR (almost five) years ago was wrong, now why don't you get over it?  But, whatever, some people never get over fetishes.

Do you REALLY want to go there Doc? I could send you a message/email with where I've graduated from, what i'm currently working on, what I have and what I'm working on. I doubt you'd believe it, since you seem to be quite content to go with whatever fills your chalice.

What, you didn't find  my comment funny??? I thought it was. I guess only those on the left are funny. At least you got religion.

If you were a conservative and not spouting craziness we wouldn't be having this conversation.

No Doc's point is liberals expect others to give, give, give yet somehow don't practice what they preach. It's a private thing for most conservatives.

Yea, I know.  He has made every claim in existance.  He makes the boy who cried wolf seem like an honest person.

Exactly.  But dont waste your time explaining it to him.  He does not have the mental capacity to understand,

That says a lot in few words. 

Humor, for me, stops when you get into name calling (my name calling included). Being called a douche bag, just isn't funny. Being called absent-minded, a space cadet, a klutz, etc. etc. - sure, those are funny. The rest, just stupid.

A few points on this:

1) I took what I knew of Doc's history on here, and made the best guess I could. If I'm wrong, then I am wrong and I apologize - though forgive me if I am skeptical of his claims given what I remember him saying in the past (on an almost identically phrased statement no less). 

2) Regardless of whether I'm right or wrong - Doc's comment is a flat out generalization that is fallacious. But, whatever, my observations have forced me to expect human beings in general to some of the most illogical things. 

3) I give, and I'm a liberal. Care to say that to my face Doc? 

Unlike you, whom are perfect right? Come on Doc, the immature shit that Idid happened four, almost five years ago - do you really hold grudges that long? 

"Young men are as apt to think themselves wise enough, as drunken men are to think themselves sober enough."

Uh, genius, it happened 2 years ago, and I was gone for one of them.  The refreshing part of being gone for a year?  You can see what has changed and what has not.  You have not.  I spotted you on the second post I read.  Now tell me how you have changed?

Besides, 2 years ago I thought you were just a misguided kid (and told you as much).  You are 2 years older, but no wiser, and my patience has worn out.

EDIT:  From what I have been told, your LW thing never ended.  She was still on you like white on rice when she was exiled.  But I was talking about the Lucas files - be all and is all as long as you can type it all lucas.

Apparently were not talking about the same thing - I'm talking about the whole LW, me, etc. Which, so far as I can remember happened roughly 2004-2005, maybe early 2006. 

~AJ

You're getting too intramural for me, boys. One thing: if there's minimum wage, how is it there's not a cap on maximum wage? Oh, on second thought maybe there is and why there are bonuses.

The reason there is no cap is the same reason that 0 is as low as you can go, but there is no maximum number.