They are like someone who learned to drive a three cylinder geo metro and are now sitting in a lamborgini. Too much power they can't keep it on the road.

Wasn't it Obama who said his administration would be transparent, not the Democrats in congress? I don't remember hearing the Dems explicitly say that they would be transparent. Likewise, how come the Republicans are not leading by example? 

~AJ

Idiot: "The Democrats intend to lead the most honest, most open and most ethical congress in history." - Pelosi 11-07-06

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2010/01/05/2006_flashback_pelosi_says_dems_will_have_most_honest__ethical_congress.html

I had pizza for lunch too.

C-SPAN wants the public to view all the meetings.  Here is the response from Pelosi.

"There has never been a more open process for any legislation in anyone who’s served here’s experience," she said."

 

 

Thank you AD. Now I know about it, given that I hadn't read or heard about it. 

wtf? 

Dude, Charles...all I did was do two things.... 1) Asked about it, because I wasn't sure (You know, I asked instead of assuming I knew...) 2) I suggested that instead of complaining more so about what the Dems do, to start worrying about what the GOP does. Actions speak louder than words - lead by example - these are all things that you and others here have suggested. That's great, but...it shouldn't be just the Dems you should be concerned with...what about your party?

You're not worried about them? Why not be worried about them, since we have to deal with both of the knucklehead party's. Frankly, your tactics (The Dems should do this, the dems should do that, the dems...) indicates to me that you're all about pointing the fingers. Fine, yes, hold dems accountable - but until you start holding the gop accountable, you really have no ground to stand on. It's akin to the pot calling the kettle black. If you're going to hold a politicians accountable, hold them ALL accountable - don't target one group or another, it smacks of party games. 

Oh great Doc: I asked an honest question because I couldn't remember. Would you rather I went ahead and assumed, since you already assume that I know everything (which isn't the case)? Good grief. 

Point isn't about what people said, but the matter of the cyclical (problematic) system we're in. Someone does something wrong, it turns into partisan clap trap (i.e. You get any or all party pundits on air talking about how the other party is horrible, evil, etc.). The party's followers then step in line and parrot (whether it is the party of the unethical politician, or his opponents). 

Why? Why do we do this? I want to hear someone step in and say, quite simply, "Enough is enough. Neither of you guys are ethical - you're all a bunch of assholes. Start holding yourself accountable; no more lies, no more crap, nothing. If you do something wrong, admit it and fix it - if need be, step the fuck down. Enough is enough." 

That's it. I don't care what party, what politician. I would throw the lot of them out if I could - even my own state reps and senators. 

Now if you could, please take my entire comment in context people. (Not specified toward a single person) I know you all have a predisposition towards me due to the immature crap I pulled 4+ years ago, and that I'm some big bad evil liberal (\s), but I would hope that you could at-the-least, truly take a look at my words and what I mean. (If I'm not getting something across, or there are any questions, ask me please.)

Oddly enough - though don't mention this to Nitro, he'll naturally have a seizure (\s) - I do read and listen to FoxNews. Just because I don't care for it, and that I am often overly critical of its...presentation style, doesn't mean I won't gather my news from all biases. In fact, funny as it is to me, my gf often gets all up in arms about it.  

Peace, ~Alderic

Agreed, he's been shown to be a typical politician. Oooh, surprise there! What, did you suspect, the second coming?  Oh, wait, guess not since them honest and ethical politicians are everywhere. 

~AJ

I expected him to be a complete failure, and so far I have been right.

You must not have read or seen anything about Obama if you even have to make a comment like that.  Wasn't the Obama slogan.......CHANGE, HOPE, YES WE CAN!

This is the most tyrannical majority Government I've seen in my lifetime. Backroom deals and closed door sessions are unamerican.

I'm not bothered by whatever you watch. You have to be able to comprehend the information or it's just noise.

You did pose a question, but you followed it with a statement that screamed "you liar". You were not acting on ignorance, you were acting on the belief that the Democrats had not said it but you got busted by AD and now you're acting like "I didn't know" when all you had to do was do some research or at least pay more attention to the news. You're comment did not come off as ignorant, it came off as confindent you were right and the article writer was wrong but you failed to take into account that some here always back up their comments.

The thing is AJ, the Republicans are not the ones with the power right now. They could be everything a Republican or Conservative voter can dream of in a politician, but it's those who voted for the Democrats and would like vote for them again the ones that need to have their eyes opened. It's the Democrats in Congress and the Senate the ones who are BSing us and need to be called out on.

Again AJ your problem is you ignored the major problem and instead focused on the small details. The Republicans will be doing everything they can to get elected, maybe even do what they promise, the voters will take care of business with the Republicans when the time is right, during elections. Right now, they are useless as it's the Democrats the ones selfishly working on this bill (that i restate you don't like) behind closed doors.

It would be nice to see you to take something like this comment posted by ID from Pelosi, "There has never been a more open process for any legislation in anyone who’s served here’s experience," she said.", and complain about how this is such a BS comment and that she is an embarressment to the party. But no, instead you focus, again, on the small fries.

That's because to me the issue I've focused on encompasses the details. 

~AJ

Here's more from Pelosi:

"Pelosi also hinted that holding informal negotiations--likely without TV cameras--might be the most practical way to push the legislation through.

"We will do what is necessary to pass the bill," Pelosi said.