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DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

DG Players: Tier 1, Tier 2, and Those to be Avoided

This thread has been closed by pacov - a new thread has been created here:  http://forums.demigodthegame.com/383615

 

Why create this thread?

Simply stated, the ladder is generally not the best depiction of skill, imho.  It GENERALLY tracks who plays the game the most and/or who acts like a jerk by cheating instead of who the most talented players are.  That's not to say that everyone high up in the ladder falls into this category.  So, if I were to put together my own ladder that indicated skill, I wonder how things would shake out.  Obvious hurdles being that many highly skilled individuals don't play each other.  So, this requires either the people that don't play together to play more together (my personal choice) or I have to rely from feedback from other players.

Your part if you want to participate

Who do you guys think are the best players in demigod today?  I understand that its a team game, but individual players do tend to stand out (and I also know that one great player can't guarantee a win if he has weak teammates, etc).  I'm happy to have everyone's feedback.  I'm not looking for people to jump in and flame. Just call out who you think is great or who you'd like to see fight.  Perhaps we'll get games going.  You want to flame and talk crap, your post will probably end up deleted. 

You can nominate anyone you want.  To keep this from being a list of who likes who, several individuals that are generally considered excellent at the game will moderate the list.  If those individuals generally agree, a player can be removed or promoted in the list.

I've decided on 4 categories of players and have provided descriptions of each.  Please recommend players along with the category you feel they fit in.

Tier 1 Demigod Players:

Realistically, its my belief that there are 10-30 players in this game that are tier 1 DG players (the best). Those players shine as individuals, generally with a wide variety of characters and do not depend on a specific team or teammate to do well.  They can play exceptionally in 1v1, 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and 5v5.  These are players that do not cheat or desync games.  These are the people that you want on your team or you want to play against because you know you will get a good game.  Any player in this list or any other should currently be an active player.  

  • abuggeredhedgie/awuffleablehedgie
  • cowbuttzex
  • kalelsmx
  • GM-Janook
  • gm-magnus333
  • GM-Mcshane
  • GM-Mithrander
  • GM-NinkiCZ
  • GM-Renz0kuken
  • GM-Zen_God
  • Nomilarac
  • Orcun
  • OMG-pacov
  • Paulie Carbone
  • RAWRRRR
  • ThatGuyYoulove/ boxxy_Koush
  • trousersnake

Tier 2 Demigod Players:

These are players that don't quite currently fit into highest level of players, but are good players all the same.  Perhaps they require a specific team or can only do well in specific types of games (1v1, 2v2).  The bottom line is that they aren't quite as polished or versatile as the highest level players. 

  • 2nana
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • captnspaulding
  • Celmare
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • DD_Karebears
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • Esuzu
  • eXXcentric
  • Grahf666
  • IamKira
  • _illuminati_
  • Iokke
  • irek1988/never-fuk-wit-a-oak
  • Jaws8you
  • Jona__
  • Jongalt26
  • Ke5trel
  • Kitty007
  • Kollecktir
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • LuftBR
  • Maccilia
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • Obiwhan
  • Ogham
  • peterdumptruck
  • prozombie
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • Soccer-mom
  • spooky_
  • STFNG
  • Teseer (tb)
  • Thundercles
  • xXxXxAchillesTGxXxX
  • Xynth
  • yeahneil
  • Zoahr

Tier 3 Demigod Players:

A third group (or list) would be everyone else. No need to list individuals...

Demigod Players that Should Be Avoided:

These would be specific individuals that clearly (and I mean clearly) cheat.  You don't get on this list unless I (pacov) am VERY convinced that you belong here.

  • AlienWarrior - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter confirmed by pacov.  As of 1/5/2010, this player has 34 wins and 0 losses and is ladder ranked 34.  I played a game with him in a 1v1 with him as the host.  After confirming that the player spoke English, I asked him if he would let the stats count if I beat him (there is currently a simple exploit that enables any host in a 1v1 game to make the game disappear if they don't want the stats to be kept - Also note that this player plays almost exclusively 1v1 games).  The player did not respond to my question.  As I began to tear down both sides of the player's base, he used the stat exploit and the game vanished as a result.  The player used this exploit with about 10 minutes left in the game.  Based on his stats and skill level (read: not highly skilled), this player is clearly exploiting the stat system.
  • PrizmSmurf - This player should be avoided.  Stat exploiter and poor sport confirmed by pacov on 4/1/2010.  After losing in a 2v2 matchup, PrizmSmurf said "I hope you die a long slow death of cancer.  I mean it."  Then said, "Bet you are going to enjoy watching me desync."  Then, just before the citadel went down, desynced the game. Based on his stats, he clearly does not desync games on a regular basis, but wishing cancer on someone because they beat you in a game and then committing the one offense in demigod that can get you banned (saying you are desycning then desyncing) is a bit over the top.  I suggest you avoid him. 
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Reply #251 Top

Yeppp... they would go 4 generals, all minion-builds on Levi summon minions, hit F4 occasionally.

Reply #252 Top

 

that's right... ppl who premade ARE BAD.  Ppl with friends ARE STUPID.  Video game friends? really?  Get a life, am I right?  I don't have near enough time to add someone to the built in friends list and play with them when we're both on.

 

KILL THE PREMADEs

KILL THE PREMADES

KILL THE PREMADES

oh wait ppl like you have already contributed to nearly all the of the premades leaving.. and yet those same people tend to complain about the lack of players.

Something like this.

Join Pug game

_____ on other team

start game

3 min "First Blood"

10 min 7 kills to _____ everyone else 0

15 min concede

there are a LOT of ppl who's name can fit into those blanks.. being able to beat bad ppl doesn't qualify someone as omfgwtfbbq best player evar.  (and there were clearly bad ppl in your example.. all good players = no single person carries the team, dont often get first blood in first 3 min, and never 7 kills to 0 at 10 min)

 

 

 

Reply #254 Top

Damn look what this turned into while i was gone for the holidays :P.  Only thing i want to comment on is never add pyeek, he is horrible only way he gets so much ladder exp is by cheating and playing stacked 1v1's.

 

Id like to add my sedna, oak and reg :P, i don't get to play them much but just as good with them as with UB.  And Heros-Temp- should def be green.

Reply #255 Top

Quoting McShane87, reply 250



Quoting Epiphenomenon,
reply 249

_Shadow

IllegalDustbin

CdrRogdan

RapierX
Silly RapierX, this is a list of *current* players that are the best. If you could get your old premade back to give us some replays, you would probably be the only players on that list. Please? Pretty please can we have some replays?

 

Seriously, those four are the best players to touch this game in its history, but they are inactive. No one could touch them.


 

No they aren't.  They were good because _Shadow was the first exploiting the horn of battle, no one knew how to deal with it.  And it was before the overlay, when 222 game winning streaks were possible.  No full premades ever played eachother.

None of us have played since early july. I haven't seen Shadow/Rogdan in like 4 months and Dustbin's been MIA like a month, so no possibility of anything even if we wanted to do so.

Edit: Damn, wrong game.

Reply #256 Top

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 249
Silly RapierX, this is a list of *current* players that are the best. If you could get your old premade back to give us some replays, you would probably be the only players on that list. Please? Pretty please can we have some replays?

 

Seriously, those four are the best players to touch this game in its history, but they are inactive. No one could touch them.
lol. good one

Reply #257 Top

Quoting HorseStrangler, reply 256

Quoting Epiphenomenon, reply 249Silly RapierX, this is a list of *current* players that are the best. If you could get your old premade back to give us some replays, you would probably be the only players on that list. Please? Pretty please can we have some replays?

 

Seriously, those four are the best players to touch this game in its history, but they are inactive. No one could touch them.lol. good one

Yeah I wasn't sure how to respond to that post either.  I gave it a lol.

Reply #258 Top

Quoting RAWRRRR, reply 252


there are a LOT of ppl who's name can fit into those blanks.. being able to beat bad ppl doesn't qualify someone as omfgwtfbbq best player evar.  (and there were clearly bad ppl in your example.. all good players = no single person carries the team, dont often get first blood in first 3 min, and never 7 kills to 0 at 10 min)

 

 

Yeah I used to get free kills off the break all the time with awful Mard's Hammer angel dps reg.

Also srsly how hard is UB to play?  You stack HP, Ooze Spit and Grasp.  The hardest decision is knowing when to pop your sigil.

One thing I do give Orcun credit for is he does play against 'known' good players pretty consistently.  So at least he's not content with spanking horrible players all day.

Reply #259 Top

Ahh, nice!  I can use my very first forum post here to acknowledge a list of people I'll do my best to hide from as a complete and total newb.  :X

No, I didn't read the entire 18 pages, I'll just use that nice little list up front... >.>  Or you can just avoid the games I host that say "newbftw" :D

Reply #260 Top

Could the red names be cut out?

 

P.S. Excluding ThatGuy...

Reply #261 Top

 

  • 2nana
  • Abuggeredhedgie (sedna)
  • Alberto
  • Alterschism 
  • Amazing_Hero (oak)
  • Archon_SAAR (regulus!)
  • Atma44x (torch bearer)
  • bloodlust
  • cowbuttzex (tb + oak)
  • Darz4 (qot)
  • destroyer989 (reg, but good w all)
  • DiceAreEvil (demon assassin)
  • Epiphenomenon (beast)
  • ErksaConti (sedna)
  • eXborderline (oak + erb)
  • eXXcentric (nominated himself)
  • FutileEmotion
  • gaabriel
  • gkrit (oak) imo his UB is better than his oak
  • gl_Mithrander (oak + erb)
  • Hemp_Guy
  • irek1988 (reg)
  • Izuz (oak)
  • Janook
  • JayKayz (erb)
  • Jona_ (beast)
  • JudeTepes
  • kalelSmX (beast + rook + reg)
  • Ke5trel (kestrel is good right?)
  • killer_oak(oak)
  • Kingslet (oak)
  • Lethstang (oak + ub)
  • lifekatana
  • Lordi17 (oak + erb)
  • Mcshane (sedna + tb + oak)
  • morpheas768 (erebus)
  • Murder_DN (erebus) Should be UB not Erebus
  • mybones92 (support oak + mist erb + rook)
  • Naur (oak + da + reg)
  • NinkiCZ (rook + everybody)
  • nzac
  • Obiwhan (oak + beast)
  • Obscenitor/horsestrangler (rook + beast)
  • Ogham (oak + sed)
  • Orcun_BL (reg + beast)
  • pacov (beast + reg)
  • Pants (beast)
  • Peterdumptruck (minion erebus/minion oak)
  • PhYCE
  • PlaygroundLegend (rook + reg) -acct banned? inactive I don't count banned players
  • Posidenii (rook)
  • rawrrr (beast)
  • receiver
  • Sakke
  • Sevenix
  • Shade (erebus)
  • Shinobinomono (rook)
  • Shred_demon (demon assassin)
  • spooky_ same as alter.
  • Swoxks
  • ThatGuyYoulove (added by someone then voted himself in once  , oak)
  • trousersnake (rook + beast)
  • Tukulis
  • tshughes (erebus)
  • Vesuvius
New list. I cut inactive bad players out. Now we should select out of this list. 
To be honest, I haven't played all of these people but you should be a lot more vigilant in cutting names. One guy vouching for a player is not enough. If noone knows a player, we should cut. It sound harsh but I don't see how we can know if a guy is good if noone played him in a real match.  

 

Reply #262 Top

Magla  - lol

Best forces of light pantheon player?  Sure...

He invalid gamestates the second he starts losing!

Anyone here looked at his list of games and seen all the N/As and incompletes?

Have a look for yourself!

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/games/player/56074/

He invalid gamestated me, systemscrash and brate9000 because we already had two kills in the first 3 minutes.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1183080/player/56074/

His account is a joke.  When he is up against a good team he invalid gamestates.  That's the only reason he has the record he has.

Stardock should delete his account.  His position as no.1 looks retarded .

 

 

Cut him!

Reply #263 Top

We should still track people that have been removed, imo, somewhere.

Reply #264 Top

If they really are good, someone is bound to resuggest them. For now however you should make a list of the players that actually are available to play.

 

Otherwise write them down somewhere else.

Reply #265 Top

updated list using lifekatana's post

Reply #266 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 262





Magla  - lol

Best forces of light pantheon player?  Sure...

He invalid gamestates the second he starts losing!

Anyone here looked at his list of games and seen all the N/As and incompletes?

Have a look for yourself!

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/games/player/56074/

He invalid gamestated me, systemscrash and brate9000 because we already had two kills in the first 3 minutes.

http://pantheon.demigodthegame.com/game/1183080/player/56074/

His account is a joke.  When he is up against a good team he invalid gamestates.  That's the only reason he has the record he has.

Stardock should delete his account.  His position as no.1 looks retarded .

Cut him!

He never invalidated against me when I beat him, I've also played him to the end whe he had a really bad partner and he didn't invalidate or quit. His UB build is solid. He is very hard to kill.

 

Reply #267 Top

Typically irek and I would go into a game, we would take the worst player there (maybe 30-50% of the time they would have less than 20 games or so).

 

I find that joining a 3v3/4v4 game with one friend, and then taking the most awful player to join the room as our third is the most reliable way to get entertaining games.  Sometimes you get smashed because your beast feeds 14 kills in approximately a quarter of a second, but for the most part it's fun times.

Reply #268 Top

Sometimes you get smashed because your beast feeds 14 kills in approximately a quarter of a second

its more fun when your reg is the one that feeds imo cause then you can scream at him for not sniping too :D

Reply #269 Top

"

I find that joining a 3v3/4v4 game with one friend, and then taking the most awful player to join the room as our third is the most reliable way to get entertaining games.  Sometimes you get smashed because your beast feeds 14 kills in approximately a quarter of a second, but for the most part it's fun times."

yeahhh about that... hehe

 

Mac, early game our DA was feeding and their UB was doing okay. Then our DA and their UB screwed around most of the game while Irahi/icenine fairly legitametly outplayed us, even if they did have a slight gold/level advantage over us between TB's turbo-leveling and DA dying 4 times in the first 10 minutes.

Then we ganked the UB repeatly over and over and over and over >> It was a cheap way to win but I think it got to the point where he was dying once every 90 seconds or something absurd like that.

Reply #270 Top

sigh, recently was beating hemp_boy in a match and he did the host exploit. I am not a fan of cheaters if you do this I think it should be mentioned next to your name and or your name should be removed from the list because we are looking for classy guys right?

Reply #271 Top

I played a game with Hemp_boy recently, we lost and he didn't do any exploit then. Maybe he didn't know? Still you could add a note or something til you know for sure perhaps.

Reply #272 Top

hiroshima not good enough. Also hosts medium skill games.

Reply #273 Top

Quoting lifekatana, reply 272
hiroshima not good enough. Also hosts medium skill games.

I'm bound to agree on this one. Got a note saying he left a game once aswell.

Reply #274 Top

Ah my dear friend Amazing hero. I really like him, and he's a god with shields and is always the silent workhorse buying all the cit upgrades supporting capping flags but... his build is just not competetive, and it hurts him a lot. I say this with heartache  you should cut him out.

Reply #275 Top

Exborderline.


To me this is a pretty bad player. He always used to scare away people with his big fat 1000+ record and high win rate but ingame he was ... mediocre.

 

Please cut.