Arrogant Idiots
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Yes, this is a group of smokers that are upset that here in Canada we're starting to come to our senses and are banning smoking in all public places. Maybe someday we'll even get to the point of realizing that smoking in a house with a child under the age of 18 is ABUSE and charge people as such.
FACT: Second hand smoke is actually worse than the stuff you suck into your lungs with those cancer sticks. This is just as much fact as Evolution. Yes, I said Evolution. Evolution is essentially a LAW that has never been disproven (despite the best efforts of religious zealots that are prepared to call the sky green when it's blue, blue blue). But somehow people have a right to smoke and harm others in the process.
If you want to smoke, smoke in private where the only person you're killing is you. You have that right. I.e. you have the right to be a moron. Heck, if you want to do pot or cocaine or any other drug, you go right ahead, just do it in private and make sure you don't harm others in the process. That is your right. You have the right to be a moron.
What you don't have a right to do is harm someone else in the process of harming yourself. To put it another way, your right to swing your fist ends at my face. Your freedom does not give you the right to harm others. This is a fundamental principle of law going back to Babylonian times and before. It is the only non-contradictory structure for a legal system and for society. Any law that breaks this rule is unjust by definition.
Smoking bans in public places and in house holds with children under 18 (hasn't happened yet, but here's hoping) is just by definition because it protects people from you swing your fist and hitting them in the face.
Of course we have to like freedom of speech and take the bad with the good... so here's another example of the greatness of the concept of freedom...
But you know what? We don't have to give them a forum to speak, we only have to allow them to speak if they find a form to do so. We don't even have to listen.
You want to smoke? Fine, go smoke, but make no mistake, you're killing yourself and if you do it with others around you, you're killing them too. You have the right to kill yourself. You do not have the right to kill others. You don't even have the right to interfere with their lives so that you can harm yourself. If your action harms others, you don't have the right to do it.
If you don't like this, get over it. You're self-centered (notice not selfish, selfish is good) and arrogant (in the true sense of the word) and the height of stupidity. But we can be sure of one thing: You're going to die faster than normal so we won't have to deal with idiots like those that created www.mychoice.ca very long!
But then what do you expect from people that engage in a knowingly destructive practice? Contradiction, breeds contradiction. (spell checked this time)
Yes, this is a group of smokers that are upset that here in Canada we're starting to come to our senses and are banning smoking in all public places. Maybe someday we'll even get to the point of realizing that smoking in a house with a child under the age of 18 is ABUSE and charge people as such.
FACT: Second hand smoke is actually worse than the stuff you suck into your lungs with those cancer sticks. This is just as much fact as Evolution. Yes, I said Evolution. Evolution is essentially a LAW that has never been disproven (despite the best efforts of religious zealots that are prepared to call the sky green when it's blue, blue blue). But somehow people have a right to smoke and harm others in the process.
If you want to smoke, smoke in private where the only person you're killing is you. You have that right. I.e. you have the right to be a moron. Heck, if you want to do pot or cocaine or any other drug, you go right ahead, just do it in private and make sure you don't harm others in the process. That is your right. You have the right to be a moron.
What you don't have a right to do is harm someone else in the process of harming yourself. To put it another way, your right to swing your fist ends at my face. Your freedom does not give you the right to harm others. This is a fundamental principle of law going back to Babylonian times and before. It is the only non-contradictory structure for a legal system and for society. Any law that breaks this rule is unjust by definition.
Smoking bans in public places and in house holds with children under 18 (hasn't happened yet, but here's hoping) is just by definition because it protects people from you swing your fist and hitting them in the face.
Of course we have to like freedom of speech and take the bad with the good... so here's another example of the greatness of the concept of freedom...
But you know what? We don't have to give them a forum to speak, we only have to allow them to speak if they find a form to do so. We don't even have to listen.
You want to smoke? Fine, go smoke, but make no mistake, you're killing yourself and if you do it with others around you, you're killing them too. You have the right to kill yourself. You do not have the right to kill others. You don't even have the right to interfere with their lives so that you can harm yourself. If your action harms others, you don't have the right to do it.
If you don't like this, get over it. You're self-centered (notice not selfish, selfish is good) and arrogant (in the true sense of the word) and the height of stupidity. But we can be sure of one thing: You're going to die faster than normal so we won't have to deal with idiots like those that created www.mychoice.ca very long!
But then what do you expect from people that engage in a knowingly destructive practice? Contradiction, breeds contradiction. (spell checked this time)
