Reading more and comments on the web about this really shows how naive the average Obama supporter is.  It's really no surprise the country is in the shape it is.

Yeah, your views and sarcasm are a problem. ;~P (Okay, maybe just the sarcasm)

I find it interesting, although I'm assuming that you're being sarcastic, that you're suggesting backing out of Afghanistan even though we're not done there. Not only that, but we still have OBL to deal with (Yup, he's still around the bastard)

Btw...Iran will be iran. Ahmadinijead is a blowhard who is using all of this for his gains, and we're playing into his slimy hands Charles. As for NK, again....all talk.

Merely your opinion on this, but you do realize we're still in Iraq right? By no means did we do a disappearing act. Oh, and they did sort of, kinda, maybe asked us to go. Yeah....I think listening to a country's sovereign government (not to mention the people) is the right thing to do. Maybe that's just me though.

As for Afghanistan --> I agree that he should be a bit quicker.

1. Again, apologizing or using PR to smooth over ruffled feathers is good.

2. Better than them, say, attacking us, right?

3. Party members =/= party, and party =/= party members. You should know that;  The same thing goes if I said that all Puerto Ricans = weird. It would be a gross, and faulty generalization. Capiche?

 4. What's so wrong with China again? Maybe I'm biased due to my Chinese dorm roommate.

You know...this seems similar to the whole Chicago outrage; I mean, it would have been an awesome thing if we had gotten the Olympics in Chicago. It's a majoryly prestiguous event. Now, our elected leader...no matter if you like him or now...has been internationally recognized and honored with a huge award.

Yet...I haven't seen anyone on this thread say," Congrats Mr. President," or "Good job," or "Go USA!" Nothing. It seems that partisanship has taken hold before pride or anything else has. Why? 

Thank you KFC for pointing out that he was nominated mere days after becoming President.  What had he done toward any of the stipulations for meriting the award?

As for the prize losing value because it was given to someone who hasn't actually done anything...duh!  The only ones being political here are the ones on the award panel.  They might as well be honest and call it the "Thank God he's Not Bush" award.  There have been years where noone merited the award and the cash prize was put back into the commitee.  If Obama was all they could come up with this year, they should have kept the prize as a no winner this year. 

Obama might actually merit it some day...he sure hasn't yet though and he certainly didn't merit a nomination back in Jan!

You know, I was thinking...in reality, this award ALWAYS has been a political award. They wouldn't exactly give it to Adolph Hitler, even if he did do something worth the award. (shrugs) To paraphrase a Dylan song, "We live in a political world." So really, "earning it" is a moot point.

Oh, and in breaking news - President Obama has said that the $1.4 million prize money he'll be receiving will be going towards the national debt. lol

~AJ

Ha, good one!

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However, Obama's actually accomplished plenty....it's just that his "change" as "world community orgainizer" is bringing on chaos instead of peace.

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Fox reported others who were under consideration.

Have you checked our those cities who have had the Olympics and the fact that they are in debt as a result all upon the shoulders and pocketbook of the taxpayers.

So, no it wouldn't have been an awesome thing for the people of Chicago or for the State of Illinois. They can't AFFORD IT.

Yet we can afford other things? Riiiight, well honestly, I would rather "not afford" things that could bring pristige, jobs, publicity, and so on to our country...the finance things that do nothing but make things problematic (War, Doma, etc.)

Yup, hasn't worked so well (Thanks greed, ambition, etc.), but I don't view it in the paranoid way that most do, sorry.

~AJ

You can't feed your family on prestige and publicity AJ.  You sound like a very young, inexperienced person to me.  Sure, it would be "cool" to have the Olympics in Chicago but it doesn't mean it would be a good thing for the city or state.  That whole reality of "someone has to pay for the cool stuff" becomes a problem.

Have you lived in a communist country? 

hey ChuckCS That is not what I meant nor said.

What give a penny, spend a trillion? I would prefer the Nobel committee to to make out all donations to cover uncontrolled spending directly to the IRS in the future.

To Obama, good job bringing the money to the US, much better to keep it out of the hands of those that hate us around the world. I hope you or someone else wins it again next time. Look how nicely it's keeping Al Gore jetting around the world, while his big house is lit up like a Christmas tree, preaching global warming. Go USA.... you other world peaceniks suck... slam dunked by a wet behind the ears US president to boot. I'll bet you can hear the laughing from the WH clear throughout the National Mall.

I realize that; I did mention new jobs that would (theoretically) be created. It would also tend to draw a lot of people from everywhere, which could entice people to reinvest in the city. Such things might include entrepreneurship, actually cleaning the city up, upgrading facilities, etc. A lot could be done, if done right.*sighs* There we go again with the young and naive comment. Why does everyone always use that? It's insulting really. I mean I don't say others here are old and cynnical. >_> Just annoying, and - no offense - feels like a damn cop out.

I haven't actually, and yes I know you'll probably mention all the harsh negatives and realities and so on - that's fine, but I've researched it and read and talked with people who have lived there. With all of that in mind, with all due respect, I still stand by my opinion on it. I'm realistic that in practice, in the real world, communism won't work for many reasons - but the concept itself  in theory - I believe is a heck of an idea.

~AJ

The comment was, again, an attempt at humor/sarcasm. My bad...maybe I should provide a key next time.

~AJ

Fox news reported a while ago he was giving it to charity.

Communism violates the fundamental rights of man. 

Think Freedom....there is no freedom under the rule of Communism. No freedom to own property, no freedom of religion. When Castro took over Cuba, he confiscated all the property, lands, buildings, schools, and closed every Church on the island.

 Under the Communist system, everything and everyone belongs to the Sate including children.

Which is what they want.  Remember, liberals want everyone to be equally miserable, just as long as they can claim it's "fair".

It was a joke...

It's safe to say that some people don't believe in the rights of man, period; though they may claim otherwise. In fact, some of those people who claim that they believe in such, change their mind when they get to other topics. (War, etc.)

Lula, you're misunderstanding the theory behind communism. At it's purest form, theoretically (granted, not practically) all needs would be met and "the people" would be happy. Anyways, like I said - I realize and agree that it just won't work with the way the world is. However, I think, in theory, it is a noble idea.

Also, you're incorrect - under communism the government doesn't  own anything (per se).

Again, this is all theory, and really, Castro isn't truly communist. Heck, the soviet union (if you truly apply communistic theory rigidly) was not communist. It was, at best, a mix of socialism, dictatorship, oligarchy, and a few other things.

It was a joke.

 Maybe it was the Beer Summit.

Now I'm probably as big a critic of Obama as most here. But it's not the man, it's his policies I take issue with. In this case, it is not something he asked for or had any influence in getting. In fact I liked his press conference on the matter, semi-classy. Be angry if you like, but direct it to where it is deserved, the Nobel folks and the majority of US voters that made it possible. I can think of many more places I wouldn't want the money heading to besides the US. If the world wants to give us money because they don't like Bush, I say run for office Jeb. Maybe we can get more cash, plus I'd love to see the libs of the world lose it. I give Obama his share of grief, but as I always say, hate the game not the player.

As for the Hitler comment...they gave it to Arafat...who was at least as intent on killing Jews as Adolf.

I am not sure if Barry-O asked for it or not, he has a lot of handlers and buffers but I don't think he is above having one of his minions (or controllers, if you favor the conspiracy scenario) put his name in the hat and greasing the skids to ensure success.  On the other hand, what happened in his bid to get the Olympics?  It's a strange, strange world we live, Master Jack.

MamaCharlie says:  this incident has illustrated for me once again, how meaningless are the "honors of men"

But in answer to Leauki's original question...The Heisman Trophy will be awarded in a few months, the Lombardi, whatever they call the World Series trophy, the Oscars, The World Cup, The America's Cup, and who knows, next summer at Wimbledon...

AMEN!

Forget what Communism is in theory...Communism exists in practice and people have suffered under it and are still suffering under it. Cuba, North Korea, North Vietnam,

Communism, in practice, is a system of madness. It violates all principles of liberty.

Tell that to the thousands of Cubans who risk their lives trying to escape...the Castro Communist regime.

And after that why don't you write a letter to Castro and his brother and insist they return 341 Catholic Schools to their rightful owners and allow them to get them up and running again?

Everything is wonderful when you remove human nature from the equation - just not realistic.

this is Lucas in a nutshell 

Oi, talk about the blind commenting on the (so called) blind, read this:

I've said this same damn thing many times in this thread alone, so I'm going to just leave the long list at two. That being said, KFC...straight up, you're being assinine. Nitro, like I said..*points up to the two of many comments he made*. Clearly, if anyone is reading my comments, they'll see that I've acknowledged that I see communism in two ways - the REALISTIC real world way, and theory. Apparently a few of you can't seem to reconcile that, jebus.

~AJ