I'm curious AJ, are you gay? Otherwise I would have to say your comments are just as ignorant as mine. You are speaking on behalf of gays as if you understand them but just as you pointed out to me that I am not gay so I am not in a position to judge and am ignorant, unless you are gay that makes you ignorant as well by your own words. Am I wrong?
At one point I considered myself gay and was in several relationships with guys, but after a while I came to realize that I'm actually bisexual. And yes, I have actually bore the brunt of negative actions on the part of others who...shall we say...didn't think fondly of me.
it's something the majority would like to have.
Majority as in the majority of homosexuals? Or the American population? If it's the latter, I would have to disagree because I need only look back to the civil rights movement and the fact that "the majority" didn't want blacks to be treated equally, or for segregation to be changed.
Gays have fought long and hard (don't misunderstand please) to be accepted but they have failed in one thing. They have failed to accept that there will be people who won't accept them. An "I don't care" attitude is not the kind of attitude deserving of a holiday or pride day. Black people didn't get a Black History Month because they had an "I dont care" attitude. They got it because they cared because they wanted to be equals, because they wanted to simply be; not for pride days and stuff. For crying out loud people wanted to make an Obama day, as if every other President before him had one. Obama is just a man, the only diffenece is that he is Black, but he is as a much a corrupt politician as any other.
You know, I can agree that the mainstream movement - i.e. the ones that people claim are "THE" movement and such, have indeed failed. In fact, I am currently brainstorming and researching an essay about how I believe the SSM/Homosexuality equality movement can change its tactics toward non-violence. (I've been reading Martin Luther King's and Ghandi's autobiographies - they is such an amazing and brilliant man) I believe that non-violence and other non-aggressive means could finally get things so that homosexuals are granted equal rights.
Have you ever seen Star Trek The Next Generation AJ? I have seen in that show that even though mankind tries to be the better person in every situation to meet new species, often putting their own lives at risk in doing so, the risk is always met with caution, fear and distrust because while they are trying to show they have no need for striking first or coming off as superior, they know that the other person may not be as willing to risk their lives and might be more willing to take freindship as a weakness. I believe we can make friends with those wanting to be our friends so long as we have common goals, but those who don't how can we associate ourselves with them if we have to accpet things such as inhumane treatment, inconsiderate actions towards other nations and the belief that their religion, Gov't or both is superior to all and should be supreme? We may not be the poster boy for common sense, prudence, humility and justice; but I see us being closer to that than any other nation. That's just my opinion.
Yes I have actually; I'm a total ST nerd. I actually totally get what you're saying and am actually stating a variation of the same thing. As for being associated with countries who are inhumane -- charles -- everyone is associated with everyone in this glogalized world. You cannot not be connected to countries like Venezuela, Iran, etc. Mass media prevents that. Even if a government issues some ban, there are ways around it. Like the saying goes, if there is a will, there will be a way and it will be done.
Mmm, I don't know. I feel like we've lost our way/wandered from our path; this is a feeling that has grown since I finished reading a couple books.
Still you are more concerned with those far away and less concerned with those close by. That's a strange way to see things. I care more about those around me, I could care less about those far from me unless I know them. Prudence and common sense are not attributes of a politician, unless you have been missing the last 5 years (just for starters) including this one.
I've always been a global and others first person, ever since I can remember. That doesn't mean I don't care about those close around me -- I love my family and friends to death. But, and I don't mean to sound arrogant, I've just always been the type that thinks...world wide, so to speak. In fact, I'm considering going into volunteer work. *shrugs* Anyways, it's unfortunate that politicians are not like that. I believe that prudence, common sense, plus a few other things are just what is needed in those who run a nation. I would say that we're in a dilemma because we're giving power to those who crave it, and as the saying goes: "Power is best in the hands of those who do not want it." (Or however it goes)
You can say not really but it still stands that if people see you with gay people they will assume you are gay and am sure you will not simply say think what you want.
Well frankly, in my opinion, if people are going to judge me based off of what they see and not get to know me - then forget them. *shrugs* Yeah, I did point out looking professional, but that's another topic another time.
Duh! My point. Don't tell me you didn't get that?
Mmm, there should have been a ;~p after what I said as it was pure jest.
So if I am not gay, why am I being forced to accept something I dont understand? Keep in mind, I have no issues with gays. I have a friend or 2 myself. So does my wife. The only difference between a gay guy and me is he likes men more than women or men only. Otherwise we both got dicks, can both pee standing or sitting and still need women to have children even if its thru adoption. It's interesting you think I am not in a position to judge anyone because I am not gay but don't people get put in juries to judge other people in crimes they may have never had any experience in? Do thieves judge thieves in court? Do child molesters judge child molesters? Most gay people claim they have been gay all their lives, how can they judge me if they have never been straight? I'm not afraid to get my hands dirty AJ, I don't fear some kind of gay retaliation because those who feel the need to use violence, insults, attempts to ruin peoples lives and such in situations that don't merit that kind of behavior will do so. I stand up for what I believe in, be gay all you want, that's your life. wanna get married? Let God judge you then. Want a holiday for you, you'll have to get approval, plain and simple.
Simply put, to establish equal rights for a group of peple who clearly don't have that - does not mean that you have to accept it. I and others have provided points where our nation can makes sure that homosexuals are treated fairly/equaly and everyone could be happy.
I think you're confusing the noise of the more radical bunch with the basic desire of the majority of homosexuals. Most just want to live their lives, they don't want any of the crap that people throw at them.
As for my comment about not being in position to judge - I'm simply talking about the fact that, you're not gay, and haven't had to live the life of someone who is gay and has been disrespected, harrassed, assaulted, and so on so forth. That is the point I'm making - you've never had to know that your wish to marry the one person you are comitted to can never happen, because of who and what you are.
As I said, I dont mind making it a day for good reasons, but for political reasons, just to earn votes (and don't say you dont know that because we all know that)? That's rather insulting and shameful if you ask me
I was giving you a bad time, 'kay? Sort of a mimic/poke at what you said to me earlier.
~AJ