ACLU sues over federal support
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As an eagle scout, the son of an eagle scout and the father of two eagle scouts, none of whom have ever voted for a republican for national office, all of which are card carrying members of the ACLU, I would invite you to bugger off. The Boy Scouts have far more units sponsored by Presbyterian Churches than Army Bases. The Boy Scouts also discriminate. For that matter, so does the military. In fact, the American Bar Association had to grant special dispensation to law schools which receive federal funds because the ABA has a no discriminatory hirers clause in their accreditation procedures. Federal Law requires all schools which accept federal funds to allow military recruiters on their campus. Should we abolish the ABA? I invite you to try to get your congressional representative to start that law in process.
Finally, the decision, which by the way was a settlement deal, not a judge's decision, does not prohibit boy scouts from meeting on army bases, camping at army barracks, or touring facilities. All it does is prohibit the Army from allowing it's members, as an official part of their jobs, chartering and leading boy scout troops.
Worry when the ACLU goes after the LDS, after all a vast plurality, if not a majority of all boy scout units in the US are at mormon churches.
Cheers
| Reply #1 By: jeblackstar - 11/30/2004 4:44:16 PM As an eagle scout, the son of an eagle scout and the father of two eagle scouts, none of whom have ever voted for a republican for national office, all of which are card carrying members of the ACLU, I would invite you to bugger off. The Boy Scouts have far more units sponsored by Presbyterian Churches than Army Bases. The Boy Scouts also discriminate. |
| As an ex eagle scout do you remember the basic tenents of the scouts? If you stand by those tenents then you know why they don't let gays in. |
| Reply #3 By: pseudosoldier - 11/30/2004 10:44:56 PM drmiler - The premise for stating that the Boy Scouts discriminate, as stated in the opening sentence of the article quoted by the original poster, is that they require an oath to God, thereby excluding atheists and others who refuse to say such an oath |
| Trustworthy, Loyal, Helpful, Friendly, Courteous, Kind, Obedient, Cheerful, Thrifty, Brave, Clean, and Reverent? Did I miss some? Or was it the Scout Oath that mentioned excluding homosexuals? |
One entry found for reverent. Main Entry: rev·er·ent Pronunciation: 'rev-r&nt, 're-v&-; 're-v&rnt Function: adjective Etymology: Middle English, from Latin reverent-, reverens, present participle of revereri : expressing or characterized by reverence : WORSHIPFUL Main Entry: 1rev·er·ence Pronunciation: 'rev-r&n(t)s, 're-v&-; 're-v&rn(t)s Function: noun 1 : honor or respect felt or shown : DEFERENCE; especially : profound adoring awed respect 2 : a gesture of respect (as a bow) 3 : the state of being revered 4 : one held in reverence -- used as a title for a clergyman |
| require an oath to God, thereby excluding atheists and others who refuse to say such an oath |
it's the oath, of course. i got no idea why you felt it necessary to define 'reverent'.
as far as gay scoutmasters go, you must not be very familiar with their founder. sorta ironic. enjoy the link Link
| Worry when the ACLU goes after the LDS, after all a vast plurality, if not a majority of all boy scout units in the US are at mormon churches. |
True, but nearly every LDS church has a boy scout troop and cub scout pack. That, and the fact that there are a lot of LDS churches out there... Well, you get the point. Lots of LDS troops. Especially in Nevada, Utah and Idaho.
Drmiller, why did you define reverent? If you are attempting to show that reverent is the single relevant word which shows that Boy Scouts hate gays, then you're a little off base. I know a large number of "reverent" people who think homosexuals should be allowed to be scoutmasters and who are rather pissed off at the Scouts for excluding them. Besides, a person is an eagle scout for life, never an ex, except for certain, extremely rare circumstances. But then again, since you're not one, I guess you'd not know.
Cheers
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