ShakeNBake Slam Rook Replays

no way you can't survie even in the map cataract, and you can't even kill 1 until you get lv 5 boulder roll and you can lv up 3 times faster with towers. So here is my best build.

1. Tower

2. Shoulder / Hammer

3. x

4. Tower / Hammer

5. Boulder roll, Shoulder / Boulder roll

6. Hammer / x

7. Tower / Tower, hammer

8. Hammer / x

9. x

10. Tower, boulder roll / Tower, hammer, boulder roll

Favor: Blood of fallen, swift anklet, staff of renewal.

An interesting game, your team was definitely stronger.  The opposing rook was generally the best player on their team, and sedna was clearly the worst. No priests, very little health, she spent most of her combat mana on heals, instead of good things.

I think you fairly well illustrate the difference between a tower rook and Slam rook.  Early on, the tower rook is clearly doing better than you. He's taken down the towers on both sides of the map, and gotten at least one kill (Against your weak oak). However, when the game gets a bit more spread out, he doesn't bring enough punch when he shows up to the plate.  When you guys, very late, 3v3 near their health side portal flag, your team easily wins.  You've got a Rook Roll... he puts up a level 4 tower, maybe two.

Some notes on the gameplay:

• Notice how the regulus places his mines?  I think this is one area he could have learned to play better, since he always puts them in front of someone, but never manages to land them ON them (Except maybe during mass combats). Shake easily sidesteps a triple mine throw near the middle exp flag early on, showing how poor use of a strong ability can be a big waste of mana.
• Sedna doesn't buy priest idol minions of any kind, and often casts her healing spell, instead of using the significantly more mana efficient idols.
• The Unclean Beast, who did pretty good all in all, is using Blood of THe fallen.  He is pretty durable, but you can see multiple times where if he'd had the mana for another 'grasp' it would have been an easy kill. Just a point to show the diversiity between BotS and BotF.
• Teleganking is performed well in this game, a bit by both teams, but mostly by the winning team.  Shake has at least one, and I think a few more.
• Game was Clearly decided by level 12 for everyone involved, typical for cataract.
• At the outset of the game, Shake waits for enough money to get the scaled helm and the banded armor.  As a result, the middle flag is already captured when he gets there. (I had discussed somewhere on the boards why I'd get a teleport or flag lock instead of waiting for the Helm, in that scenario, not only would Shake have shown up to an already capped flag, but it would have been locked too).

Anyhow, I think replays are going to add a lot to this game. Will be nice to see what wins and what loses.

You can just right click and copy link location on the big Download button after you upload it on GameReplays, shake.

as the hybrid beast became the best, soon rook&slam rook will be the best

I quite sure getting atleast 1 point in tower is worth it. Towers are just huge in the beginning.

I think the argument is generally NOT about tower vs Slam.  THey are completely compatible.  The real question is tower vs.. say, God or Trebuchet.  Picking up some points, maybe just one in tower for the teleport target and early lane holding, is very good and helps you control war score and get telefrags.

WOW that TP fake cast at 15:00 was SICK !!!  but my favorite tho is how u killed that reg in the middle of his towers at 22:50 -23:00 if i remember well. never seen someone who play slam rook like u. +1

btw its was funny seeing rook running like a ninja when u got the 6k boots

Gotta agree the fake cast on the teleport was awesome, I actually did a double take watching the replay because it looked like he interrupted it.

stop hacking SnB.

Nice play SnB. What I found really great is when you don't stun+slam the sedna before she has low enough health. That's really wicked. Some of the opponent team's item choice were very questionable. They also failed to stack health. A sedna with like 2800 health is fail at around level 8-9, especially vs a slam rook.

sorry to hijack your thread [shakenbake], since it is in the strategy section, i thought i might add this replay, instead of creating a new thread about how to play rook. i will remove this post if you want me to

just had a game as a juggernaut rook, afew nice slams and saves.

kalel also played a nice tower rook build in this game.

should be good for those learning how to play rook.

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=popular&show=details&id=96270&st=0#6427512

I feel that it is a bit dubious to save 3 levels worth of points. Usually, by level 14, the game is already decided (if not over). You won't get to level 15 in general as rook (although, if you do, your slows will be epic). You could easily throw a point or two into towers without sacrificing too much. I tend to think that a Hybrid Rook is the best. Also, this build seriously sacrifices ganking potential. Here's a replay:

http://www.gamereplays.org/demigod/replays.php?game=51&tab=upcoming&show=details&id=96272

I made some stupid-ass mistakes, sure, but in general, Rook's towers made ganks happen that would not have happened otherwise without the towers. One of the best strategies I've seen is throwing up a tower in enemy lines. You force your opponent to deal with the towers or risk being ganked. They didn't deal with the towers, so they got ganked by a UB, which is a fate worse than death.

I will say that a strength of your build is low mana usage. Rook crucially needs armor, and your build can afford it since you don't need two mana helms.

My suggestion: Try throwing in a point on towers at level 1. If you don't want to delay your build, forsake Trebuchet until after level 12. One point in towers is good early game and late game. On the downside, you won't be able to afford as many hammer slams early on, but towers are more powerful at level 1 anyways.

Well.. that is very insightful.  Shows that abuggeredhedgie was the best player on both teams for sure. Those 3v3 combats you guys engaged in were literally won by his monks.  Look at the healing numbers they are throwing around, literally thousands of health.

Also, did you realize you'd accidentally bought the plenor battlecrown instead of the vlemish faceguard?

new replay added 28th September, see original post for info + link.

p.s. hope no-one sees me getting wtfpwnd in RAWR's replay xD ... 3 keyboard smashing deaths in 1 game!

I tried this build and with a lot of health stacking it is so much fun to play (in comparison to my QoT). You should also mention Sigils.

On the replay #2: Uproot Queen enemy = instant win. The 2 Rook passive tower kills (QoT, then Erebus escaping from mist) were quite funny.

Got a replay of me and my mates playing a game where the opposing Queen was 'uproot specced'.  She faced off against our rook (who had one point in towers) and kept UPROOTING his towers.  Over the course of the game, she only killed two real towers.  Not exactly the aggro strat I think she was expecting.