Dems.in 06?

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After their overwhelming defeat this past election their has been much talk of whats next for the party. New leaders in the senate and DNC are needed, so for the senate the democrats naturally chose somenone from their party considered concervative. Wait a minute is that really the face of the Party? As for the new DNC chairman its rummored to be either Howard Dean or John Edwards. Wait a minute didn't both of these people loose the parties presidential ticket? As is seen the article Democratic Party In The 21st Century[/I We really are sinking back to our older leader instead of the newer younger faces. (With esception to Edwards and Obama) Will the Democrats close the gap or just fade out. After all we've been around for at least 176 years. Is it time we change our party?
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Reply #1 from PolMach Forums Top
Will the Democrats close the gap or just fade out. After all we've been around for at least 176 years. Is it time we change our party?


Okay, so then what would we do? Would we do what the Whigs do in 1856? Merge with other 3rd parties to make the Reps. So we would merge with the Libertains, Greens, and others?
Reply #2 from PolMach Forums Top
Not my preferance actually, I think well stil be here but if not well do what created our party change the leadership and our party name.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
there is hope. keep your eye on on Illinois Senator-elect, Barack Obama. people like Obama are definitely what the democratic party needs...is there any way we can clone him a few thousand times?? incidentally, he was on Letterman the other night (11/26), and each time i see/hear him i am more impressed. i like what i see and i believe he has a bright future with and holds great promise for the democratic party.
Reply #4 from PolMach Forums Top
keep your eye on on Illinois Senator-elect, Barack Obama. people like Obama are definitely what the democratic party needs...


I agree I hope to see him running for Pres. eventually!

Sincerely,
DNCdude
Reply #5 from PolMach Forums Top
Just off topic for a moment but what about 2008 who do you htink wil run?
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top
I do like Hillary, but the republicans are investing a lot of effort in villifying her. I think she's going to be unwinnable.
Howard Dean doesn't impress me very much.
Obama is a godsend. I think he's got a shot at being our first black president. The sooner, the better.

In the meantime, I'd like to see the House and Senate overturned on '06, so that Bush and his entourage of neocon criminals can be impeached. And convicted.
Reply #10 from PolMach Forums Top
In the meantime, I'd like to see the House and Senate overturned on '06, so that Bush and his entourage of neocon criminals can be impeached. And convicted.


They'd resign first, then Cheney after inaugeration will give them a Presidential pardon. Thats how it went last time and they haven't learned anything since.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hallelujah! Like thinkers on Joe User, and I thought I was the only one!!!! J/K...sorta. I like Howard Dean and John Edwards, and Barak Obama is the future of the Democratic Party. I like Hillary Clinton also but she would be an easy target in four years. I think she should pitch for VP first, get the American people comfortable with the idea of a woman in power. Other than that, who knows? There's certainly others who could crop up into prominence in the next four years.....
Reply #12 from PolMach Forums Top
Just curious but does anyone think theirs a chance for Daschle come back in SD? I'd love it if he would take over Reid's position.
Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top
I agree I hope to see him running for Pres. eventually!


they way Letterman referred to this was definitely more "when" Obama will run for President, than "if" he'll run. like i said...keep an eye on him!
Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top
I wonder Obama Clinton for Pres. That'll get the right in an uproar.
Reply #15 from PolMach Forums Top
Howard Dean


No way. I hate dean and I would vote for almost anyone but him (maybe Sharpton I'll vote dean)
Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
Just curious but why do you hate Dean? I don't care much for his "acting out" but he would be a good rally for the base I think.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
Reply #17 from PolMach Forums Top
For Chairman of the DNC maybe Tom Daschle would be a good bet? What do you think?
Reply #18 from PolMach Forums Top
Dean is seen by a crazy raving lunatic, deserved or not. Hillary will have people coming out of the woodworks to vote against her. Many of Clinton's failures are going to be thrown back at her.

The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party, and is able to energize people in the way Kerry could not. We probably don't even know who that person is yet.
Reply #19 from PolMach Forums Top
The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party,


No it can not be someone tied to democratic beliefs however none-the-less this person needs to be able to energize the Democratic base more than everyone in general. In my personal opinion Dean is not a "crazy raving lunatic" he simply gets into the moment and messes up, who doesn't do that?

Sincerely,
DNCdude
Reply #20 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #19 By: DNCdude - 11/28/2004 11:17:30 PM
The next Democratic nominee needs to be someone that cannot be tied to the fringes of the party,


No it can not be someone tied to democratic beliefs however none-the-less this person needs to be able to energize the Democratic base more than everyone in general. In my personal opinion Dean is not a "crazy raving lunatic" he simply gets into the moment and messes up, who doesn't do that?

Sincerely,
DNCdude


Thaat's not all they need to energize. They also need to capture the republicans attention.
Reply #21 from PolMach Forums Top
Thaat's not all they need to energize. They also need to capture the republicans attention.


In my personal opinion they don't need to do that, the GOP does that for them, as the DNC does for Republicans, I will give you they need more than 7% of the Republican vote.

Sincerely,
DNCdude
Reply #22 from JoeUser Forums Top
I find Obama personally attractive, but he's yet to serve one day in Congress, so let's hold off on those "first black president" predictions till he has at least a little track record. The Dems would not do themselves a favor by simply latching onto him as the second coming just because he's mixed black and won an election against Alan Keyes. There has to be more to him than a marketing ploy for him to be taken seriously.

Cheers,
Daiwa
Reply #23 from PolMach Forums Top
Good point Daiwa! Hopefully he will have a strong senate record!

Sincerely,
DNCdude

P.S. Does anyone live in SD?
Reply #24 from JoeUser Forums Top
I find Obama personally attractive, but he's yet to serve one day in Congress, so let's hold off on those "first black president" predictions till he has at least a little track record. The Dems would not do themselves a favor by simply latching onto him as the second coming just because he's mixed black and won an election against Alan Keyes. There has to be more to him than a marketing ploy for him to be taken seriously.


perhaps we need to do a little reading on Mr. Obama?? it seems by the lack of substance in your comments, you have decided that an empty "marketing ploy" and his racial backaground have won the respect and support of democrats in Illinois. get real. Mr. Obama has more than just "a little track record," and his ACTIONS have EARNED the respect and support of democrats all over the U.S. and, while everyone is certainly entitled to their own opinion, let's at least make it an educated opinion. i've provided several links for your benefit, and hopefully, you'll check them out. in the event you feel i would only post links containing a biased opinion on the man, might i suggest you search the internet yourself (google alone showed over 200,000 results). either way, it would be nice if people commented on things they actually know about or have researched.

i'll restate my original point...we definitely need to keep our eyes on Mr. Obama. if he remains on the same path, he will have a continued and promising future for democrats in IL and all over the U.S.

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Reply #25 from PolMach Forums Top
CHICAGO TRIBUNE
When Barack Obama enters the U.S. Senate in January, he'll be the sole African-American in the world's most powerful legislative body. But he also will arrive in Washington riding a wave of national media buzz and carrying an armful of political IOUs more befitting a Beltway insider than a newcomer.
That status, given a boost by his much-heralded keynote speech at the Democratic National Convention, has propelled his image beyond all proportions that could be expected for a man who has never served in an office higher than Illinois state senator.
Obama donated more than $268,000 in campaign money to other Senate candidates and traveled the country to lend his celebrity status to Democratic Party fundraisers and get-out-the-vote rallies. If the past is prologue, Obama, 43, will endeavor to craft legislation that advances not only his political career, but also his personal agenda to further social justice. In Springfield, he sponsored legislation to stem racial profiling, soften the blow of welfare reform and expand health insurance to the poor.
For most of his eight years in the state Senate, the body was controlled by Republicans. He compensated for being in the minority by building personal relationships with members of the GOP and even joined a weekly bipartisan poker game.
"There are certain things about legislatures that are all the same," he said. "And one is, it's better to be in the majority than the minority. And the other thing is, if you got a chief executive of your own party, it means you are able to help shape and drive an agenda, instead of just react and respond to it."
Obama said he has targeted his first mission: expanding health insurance to those who lack it, particularly among the lower-income. Currently, 44 million Americans lack health insurance.
Years served: 1997 - Present

Legislative assignments: Committees on Health & Human Services (Chairperson); Welfare; Sen. Comm. Whole.

Biography: Attorney; born Aug. 4, 1961, in Hawaii; bachelor's degree, Columbia University, NY, 1983; graduate, Harvard Law School, Cambridge, MA, 1991; chair, The Chicago Annebery Challenge; board member, Woods Fund of Chicago; "40 under 40" award, Crain's Chicago Business, 1993; married (wife, Michelle).
Through hard work and perseverance my father got a scholarship to study in a magical place - America, which stood as a beacon of freedom and opportunity to so many who had come before," he said.

BARACK OBAMA
Grew up in Hawaii and Indonesia
Studied law at Harvard
Civil rights lawyer in Chicago
State senator for Illinois
Mr Obama, 42, is currently a state senator for Illinois, representing a district in south Chicago.
He was the favourite to win the Senate seat in 2004, held by Republican Peter Fitzgerald, who is retiring.
Mr Obama stunned Democratic opponents when he won his party's state nomination in March, facing six opponents and still winning 53% of the vote.
International upbringing
Supporters say he appeals to black and white voters alike. He is also said to have an ability to connect with white rural and small-town voters - a trait Mr Obama puts down to his family background.

Here are a few things from the links for those interested.

Sincerely,
DNCdude

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