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This is a conversation that stems from this article written by Leauki: https://forums.joeuser.com/359789

What was being discussed pertains indirectly to the article and since the conversation was moving in a possible direction that the writer may not have intended it was moved to here.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

From Philosophical Concepts of Atheism by Ernest Nagel

"Historically, Atheism has been, and indeed continues to be, a form of social and political protest, directed as much against institutionalized religion as against theistic doctrine. Atheism has been, in effect, a moral revulsion against the undoubted abuses of the secular power exercised by religious leaders and religious institutions.

Philosophical Atheists reject the assumption that there are disembodied spirits, or that incorporeal entities of any sort can exercise a casual agency."

Reply #27 from JoeUser Forums Top

Historically, yes, absolutely, people who have identified as athiests have displayed those traits. That doesn't change the fact that the word itself doesn't actually say much at all.

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

Maybe because they're not all empiricists, naturalists, or materialists? There ISN'T an answer! "Athiesm" doesn't say anything about the person besides them not believing in god or gods! It doesn't say anything about their affinity for science, or their insistence on evidence or even rejecting faith, the word only rejects a few specific spiritual concepts!

If you're going to talk about people with the beliefs you are assuming, may I suggest you not attempt to use athiesm as a catch-all? It simply isn't accurate.

Agreed.

Hence my point about MY not talking about ghosts, psychics, et al. when it comes to the supernatural. I will admit that I didn't clarify myself well enough, but when i was talking about the supernatural, it  =/= ghosts, spirits, psychics, etc.