where does it say this?

Battle plan:  Drop out of slip space around populated planet.  Die in seconds to the single, godlike Federation starship on sector patrol.  Spend that split second period of sheer confusion wondering how they got beam weapons and torpedoes to travel at FLT speeds from a ship that fires them while moving at FTL speeds.  End battle plan.

Please stop resurrecting this thread.  It's causing me recurring brain damage every time I think about it.

Will I may be mis-remembering it know that I;m thinking about it. It was during the pre-Covenant war between the Elites and Prophets before they disarmed the Keyship.

I'll check Halopedia in the moringing.

[Quote] Battle plan: Drop out slip space around populated planet. Die in seconds to the single, god like Federation starship on sector patrol. Spend that split second period of sheer confusion wondering how they got beamed weapons and torpedosto travel at FTL speeds from a ship that fires them while moving at FTL speeds. End battle plan.

Please stop resurrecting this thread. It's causing me recurring brain damage every time I think about it.[Unquote]

1. Your plan fails for the following reasons.

A. Standard Federation/nearly all ST (that I know of besides a few) space battles take place at tens of kilometers will all but a few in Halo are at least 10,000+ km.

B. The Picard Maneuver from what I have heard has been done only twice. Why? If it is such a battle wining ability in the ST-verse why not use it as offten as possible? Clearly we can expect standard Federation battles except they will most likely start engaging with Phasers at 300,000 km.

C. Covenant ships will laugh off your low single digit to high double digit high end GT range weapons. On another note the new Halo book has retcon SHIP MAC guns to being fired at 40% the speed of light for a KE of 1.17 TT per shot. Yeah, your stupid ignore everything else in favor of the 30KPS quote is is great for you but no longer.  

Battle plan: drop out half fleet of slipspace under Earth's planetary shields and begin glassing will the other half begins to engage the Federation fleet. In the confusion as their ships are easily one shoted by the god like Covenant battle ships they wonder why the hell when someone dropped a plate in the mess a bridge panel explode and knew why they were being destroyed. They were idiots. End phase one of battle plan to be continued later.  

2. Yeah, like not taking into account things for the 30kps quote like the fact that the Covenant would destroy UNSC ships with ease from 9+ light seconds if the slugs were really that slow and the clear fact that Halo ships move at thousands of Gs in normal combat.

Or how you claimed because a small dropship was dodging Plasma Torps in orbit around a planet with a Forerunner relic on it then they must be hard to hit something with it because it is really fast. Yeah, of course it could't be these were fired slower for close combat near said Forerunner relic holding planet, or the dropship wasn't being targeted (great idea! Lets just shot at that bug of a ship will that cruiser and SMAC station gut us!) etc.

On the SMAC it has been recton to nearly 50% the speed of light. So I will just assume either 7 TT or 7.7 TT since those are most likely.

is it just me or did the above post make less sense than usual?

GrandAdmiralSova, for your own well being, someone needs to come over to your house and smash your Xbox. Halo would get its ass curbstomped horribly by some race or another in St

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Just let it die.

It began dead when it was started by a brainless, unthinking zombie...

I smell Trekkies that are pissed with Halo.

SIC 'EM VADER!!!

Precursors=God

Precursor's weapons=Blackhole

Halo wins

Precursors are dead=LET THIS THREAD DIE!

I don't care who wins, as long as it's not by a landslide with "Oh, my nuke has, like, 50 pooptons, so I, like, win."

Covenant CAN hurt ST ships, and vice-versa.

what I love about Halo is how every new book introduces these Badass new weapons that outclass the last big badass weapons....but still is a EPIC FAIL considering how insignificant the Covenant and UNSC is to StarFleet. StarFleet wouldnt even have to worry about instantly reacting as it takes forever for both Covenant and UNSC to actually act out any hostilities.

haha, so true

I said it before. Star Trek = YEARS OF SCI FI HISTORY

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Star Trek Wins.....nuff said. Don't be a retard.

as I said before, "SIC 'EM VADER!!!!"

Wow, great counter.

Now for the quote on the MAC guns:

The Magnetic Accelerator Cannon (MAC) gun is one of the largest (and best) weapons that the UNSC has in its fleet. Utilizing thousands of magnetic relays, it can ram a 600-ton projectile at nearly forty percent the speed of light. Able to pulverize most Covenant ships in one to three blasts, these weapons are mounted on all UNSC spaceships large enough to hold them. Unfortunately, MACs are slow to fire and, due to their size, require the entire ship on which they are built to maneuver in order to align fire. In the Fall of Reach, MAC Gun barrages were able to destroy whole swaths of Covenant Destroyers, but in the time it took for them to reload, faster alien ships had already penetrated the Human defenses. Work is constantly underway in hopes of upgrading these weapons into faster, stronger, and more maneuverable models.

Variants
STABILIZED VARIANT: The "Super" Mac or "Big" Mac is fire-hundred percent larger than the ship-based original and is capable of firing a 3,000-ton slug at nearly half the speed of light. Due to its size, a Super MAC can only be stationed on planets or orbital weapons platforms.

1.17 Teratons of KE for a 600 ton MAC round at 40% of c.

Given how Bungie loves the number seven 7 or 7.7 Teratons at nearly 50% of c.

And for the quote from TDiC:

TAIN                                                                                                                                                                      (Garack)                                                                                                                                                                                       Our plan is to wait until we've entered orbit of the Founders' planetm then decloak and begin a massive bombardment.

LOVOK                                                                                                                                                                           Computer analysis indicates that the planet's crust will be destroyed within one hour, and the mantle within five.

Checkmate. You lied psychoak. Though the second quote I found suggests they should remove it in less than a few minutes. But going the low road and what is more likely, the sensors officer likely ment that 30% of the surface had been destroyed, like buildings, charred remains of buildings etc.etc.etc.

"SIC 'EM VADER!!!"

This has been an Sol Core Interstellar Command transmission.

isnt that convenient... take the lower value to prop up your arguement...

people are looking at this wrong. the two series are un-comparable.

Halo has a massively populated universe because it made the deaths and the losses suffered by the UNSC all the more potent. as in, there are many more UNSC populated planets much closer to Earth than in Star Trek, because in ST, half if not more of the interesting phenonema happened in space. if you took the... idn, demographics? logistics? of Halo, and swapped it with that of ST, ST would win undeniably because it would have many more ships and much more manpower.

Halo is about combat and massive damage values, because big numbers are 'cool'. while ST is less about combat and more about morals and problem solving and drama etc. if i made a Sci Fi about pure combat, i would have an empire of hundreds of millions of planets, and a fleet of billions of ships and  that can destroy a planet with one weapon strike, that have inpenetrable shields and move around the universe instantaneously. the ground forces use variants of powered body armour with extremely high tech and highly potent weapons, all with smaller versions of the impenetrable shield used by the space fleet. the fights would be AWESOME. short, but very flashy.

throw your covenant against that, and see who wins.

regardless, i think ST would win... for the simple reason, as other people pointed out, that ST ships are more manouverable, faster, and longer range than covenant ships, and even if the covenant weapons are more powerful than ST, you cant destroy what you cant hit. a ST fleet could decimate a covenant fleet before it ever got to a planet.

Sweet Caroline. .  . . BAH BAAH BUH!"

let us not forget about the forerunner dreadnought,which even after being hit by 3 SMAC rounds didnt even have a scratch on it

the covenant's energy projector travels at the speed of light and has a 100000 kilometer range,it can also be focused to the width of a needle and could slice through multiple federation ships

actually,the forerunners have taken refuge on a COMPLETELY mechanized world outside of the galaxy,im not talking about the ark.

I think I need to add stupidity to death and taxes, for a total of three constants...

While you revel in your brain damage, I'll repeat something for the umpteenth time.  Phasers can be fired at warp, photon torpedoes can be fired at warp.  Star Trek ships can engage in combat at warp.  Speed contest over.

I think I need to add stupidity to death and taxes, for a total of three constants...

While you revel in your brain damage, I'll repeat something for the umpteenth time.  Phasers can be fired at warp, photon torpedoes can be fired at warp.  Star Trek ships can engage in combat at warp.  Speed contest over.

speaking of brain damage and stupid

why did you resurrect this dead thread

I didn't, my post is minutes following the necro poster.

I have to take credit for double posting it though.  I hit refresh when the page failed to load and had it resend, so stupid...

i hate it when that happens