Tales From The Dick Side

America's Zombie Begins His Creep to the Oval Office

call me psychic.  or psychotic.  or both.

wayyyyyy back in 2005, i began telling people i was positive dick cheney would run for president.  my basis for that prediction was three-fold:

a. he said he wouldn't.

b. in his mind, nobody else was nearly as capable or even willing to shore up the bush-cheney administration's legacy.

regarding point a, one need only look back to recall how he wound up on the ticket with dubbya.  after declaring he was not going to seek the office of vice-president, he was tasked with selecting bush's running mate and, in that capacity, required all prospects to sign waivers permitting cheney full access to the entirety of their personal records.  when no one made the cut, bush chose cheney who refused to participate in the vetting process he himself had imposed on all the others.

point b was very clearly validated on 5/21/08.

oh hell, i almost forgot the third point.

c. how else will scooter libby get that pardon he was promised?

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I heard a rumour that Cheney's actually an immigrant from Romania, and his real name is Carpathia. His plan is Prez of US first, then the UN, then the world!

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It's great to see 'em squirm when Dick speaks.:thumbsup:

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Funny, not the most unique narrative, but it raised a chuckle  k4

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Cheney smacked down Obama.  Obama was the usual bumbling idiot reading a teleprompter.  You know Cheney is right when the liberals have their hissy fits about him.

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Cheney smacked down Obama.  Obama was the usual bumbling idiot reading a teleprompter.  You know Cheney is right when the liberals have their hissy fits about him.

Kingbee's article was a hissy-fit? I think I'm missing something that you picked up on.

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I'm not talking about KB.  It's an observation of the leftist media and Obama followers who are going around saying Cheney should be silenced and tortured.  Ya know, tolerance at its best!

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I wish Cheney would run for president in 2012. Obama would defeat him easily and secure another 4 years. The Republican party is finished.

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I wish Cheney would run for president in 2012. Obama would defeat him easily and secure another 4 years. The Republican party is finished.

I wonder what election results in the US would look like if only those people were allowed to vote who actually PAY for the things that the elected then does.

 

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I wish Cheney would run for president in 2012. Obama would defeat him easily and secure another 4 years. The Republican party is finished.

Another year or two of Obama and him bankrupting the nation, even his entitlement followers might think twice.  

Party affiliation for the GOP is now even with the dem's, something that hasn't happened in a while.  If the GOP can continue pruning the RINO's out, and getting back to conservative roots of small government, then it will easily rise.  The GOP's problem isn't conservatism, it's being like the dem's.

 

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I wish Cheney would run for president in 2012. Obama would defeat him easily and secure another 4 years. The Republican party is finished.

This brought a smile to my face. Most Obama supporters are crying "Wait give him a chance to do something". Now lo and behold, here's one that is "sold" after 4 months in office. The voting public is scary.

I wonder what election results in the US would look like if only those people were allowed to vote who actually PAY for the things that the elected then does.

Leauki... those results would indeed be interesting! But the full court press is on to have the entitlement receivers call the shots. Keep em poor, dependent, and politically naive and they will vote the Democrat in every time.

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I don't think so.

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33751_Colin_Powell_on_Face_the_Nation

It's fashionable just now, for the left and some of the right, to consider Colin Powell representative of 'good' Republicans.  Any Republican who doesn't openly oppose Obama's agenda at the moment qualifies.  The left has always been that way - 'We respect you and your right to dissent... as long as you agree with us.'  That's their definition of bipartisanship, as even a brief study of Nancy Pelosi's actions (as opposed to pronouncements) confirms.

Give things time.  Colin Powell doesn't speak for me.  At one time, say 1996 or 2000, I would have voted for him in a heartbeat, and if he had run in either year, I think he would have won, but if you study what he's done as opposed to his rhetoric, he's not quite the courageous figure I once considered him to be.

Unless you're willing to simply concede that principles don't matter, that personal charisma and popularity are the only means to election, what does a RINO have to offer over a Democrat opponent?  Why bother?

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Colin Powell representative of 'good' Republicans.

I take nothing away from his military service, but his politics have left me wondering about his character. He couldn't have asked for a more moderate candidate than John McCain, yet he endorsed Obama. It says a lot about a person that will turn their back on their supposed beliefs, to support the opposition, instead of trying to initiate changes within. Had he attempted this and been rebuffed, I could then understand his decision, even if I didn't agree. He did nothing. Although I have no proof, I have a gut feeling he would not have done this if Hillary were the Democrat nominee. I feel race trumped politics for Colin.

I believe he should just change parties now, as he will never be taken seriously as a Republican. He seems unconcerned to remain quiet now as he did during the Bush administration. If he had a beef that's when he should have brought it forth. Maybe he's looking for a position with the Obama administration, or just looking for a fee increase for his speaking engagements. Anyway you look at it someone that liberal shouldn't have been a Republican from the start, unless of course he just goes to the current winner for expediences sake. If that is the case, I lost even more respect for him. Time will tell.

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While I respect his military service greatly, also, there are those who consider him to have been much too timid and indecisive when big military decisions were his to make.

Given that, I don't understand why he was willing to be Secretary of State but not willing to run for President.  Unless I'm clueless (a possibility) no other Republican would have had a serious chance for the nomination if he'd wanted it in '96 or '00.  I suspect he is still stinging from being outflanked by Cheney while SOS and, in his view, 'suckered' into making the case against Iraq at the UN.  The fact that payback is in his playbook should not be surprising.  It will continue to get him lots of fawning praise on the Cheney-is-Vader liberal talkshow circuit but I don't know how much influence he will retain in the Republican Party.

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Well I dunno.  There was lots of people I think who didn't vote for McCain because they didn't know if he would live another 4-8 years.  And with the media the way it is, they would have a field day on his heart problems. 

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can't edit the other one

*there were

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I wonder what election results in the US would look like if only those people were allowed to vote who actually PAY for the things that the elected then does.

Theoretically it will skew the votes towards the conservative side of politics, but then again you may find it has no effect at all. There'll be some similarly arbitrary disagreement between kinds of conservatives which will lead to conflict and complaints about demagogues or whatever.

Anyway, what's wrong with the current system, where only those who give a damn vote? It seems to give fairly balanced results - both parties get a go at the top office every few years.

While I respect his military service greatly, also, there are those who consider him to have been much too timid and indecisive when big military decisions were his to make.

I don't think his military service is very interesting, but his willingness to obey superiors and accept being consistently sidelined could be a legacy of that (what you call timidity and indecision may well have been respecting the chain of command, even in the party).

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He couldn't have asked for a more moderate candidate than John McCain, yet he endorsed Obama.

I don't think he had any problems with John McCain. It was the move towards the right that happened in the Republican party independently of John McCain (or George Bush). The selection of Sarah Palin scared many people off. I liked her at first but ultimately wasn't impressed. Powell likely knew more about her and her supporters than I.

 

Well I dunno.  There were lots of people I think who didn't vote for McCain because they didn't know if he would live another 4-8 years.

Good point. And that would have made Sarah Palin President.

 

It will continue to get him lots of fawning praise on the Cheney-is-Vader liberal talkshow circuit but I don't know how much influence he will retain in the Republican Party.

You see, that's the problem. Republicans should listen to him. The party is losing voters and it's not because of Powell's popularity among liberals.

I don't think your average Obama supporter has anything bad to say about John McCain, but about the religious right they do. I personally don't want the "teach our religion in science class" crowd in the White House and the way it looked the Republican Party was trying to make that happen.

McCain/Lieberman would have been my dream ticket.

However, I take it many of the crowd who point at RINOs would rather stay pure in their ideology than win elections.

 

 

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There was lots of people I think who didn't vote for McCain because they didn't know if he would live another 4-8 years

Maybe they could have asked his mother what they thought his chances of living 4 more years would have been. ;)

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The selection of Sarah Palin scared many people off

Funny thing. Conservatives were fearful of Palin's inexperience. Liberals embrace Obama's inexperience. At least she had more political experience than Obama.

As I stated above, anyone as old as McCain whose mother is still alive, I'll give the benefit of the doubt (as I do believe genetics are involved in longevity). Anyway why were people so worried about Palin being president? Since many people feel the US is such a racist country, wouldn't Obama be more of a risk? Does anyone (democrats included) really want Biden to take charge? Seems too many conservatives worried about small variables with small percentages of possible occurrence. The left fueled these concerns, yet disregarded them when they could easily apply to their own candidate as well. The left obeyed the golden rule, "don't smoke/snort your own product", and they won.

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Funny thing. Conservatives were fearful of Palin's inexperience. Liberals embrace Obama's inexperience. At least she had more political experience than Obama.

Her inexperience was not what scared people off.

 

Anyway why were people so worried about Palin being president? Since many people feel the US is such a racist country, wouldn't Obama be more of a risk?

Republican voters do not usually think that the US is a racist country.

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You see, that's the problem. Republicans should listen to him. The party is losing voters and it's not because of Powell's popularity among liberals.

I don't think your average Obama supporter has anything bad to say about John McCain, but about the religious right they do. I personally don't want the "teach our religion in science class" crowd in the White House and the way it looked the Republican Party was trying to make that happen.

This is exactly what those liberals in the media wanted us to believe but it was simply not true.  As you said, her inexperience was not what 'scared' people off.  Palin was not one of the 'teach our religion in science class' crowd.  Yet there was more 'froth' & 'fearmongering' in the mainstream media over a successful, devout but tolerant solid citizen governor than there was about the Alinsky-inspired, Ayers-&-Wright-influenced community organizer.  He was idolized, she was ridiculed.  Even then it was 52-48, and I can't imagine her being any worse than Biden has proven to be.

And why does no one ever talk about the existence of a religious left?

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Getting back to the OP:

call me psychic.  or psychotic.  or both.

OK.  XD

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This is exactly what those liberals in the media wanted us to believe but it was simply not true.  As you said, her inexperience was not what 'scared' people off. 

Those liberals in the media just want to lecture you. They are still right though.

And Palin's inexperience not being the main reason people voted against her has nothing to do with that.

 

Yet there was more 'froth' & 'fearmongering' in the mainstream media over a successful, devout but tolerant solid citizen governor than there was about the Alinsky-inspired, Ayers-&-Wright-influenced community organizer.  He was idolized, she was ridiculed.  Even then it was 52-48, and I can't imagine her being any worse than Biden has proven to be.

I agree, yet that has also nothing to do with the fact that Republicans should LISTEN to Colin Powell rather than try to get rid of him and focus on some ideological and fanatical "core" perceived to be the Republican half of the country despite representing less than 20% of the population.

 

 

Palin was not one of the 'teach our religion in science class' crowd.

No, but she seemed like she might have been.

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I agree, yet that has also nothing to do with the fact that Republicans should LISTEN to Colin Powell rather than try to get rid of him and focus on some ideological and fanatical "core"

The way to 'broaden the appeal' of the party is not to become Democrats but to stand for a point of view, justify and defend it and make the case.  There is a lot of opportunity to do just that because the things currently happening or being proposed are in stark contrast to core conservative principles (which are not 'fanatical', BTW).  In a somewhat bizarre disconnect, people are far happier with Obama as an individual than they are with what he's doing, and there is not simply political opportunity in that.