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Erebus nerf in next patch

Erebus nerf in next patch

I didn't see a post on this so many have probably missed it.  Looks like it might be a pretty good 'tweak' not a huge nerf which is good.

 

Quoting Frogboy, reply 22
Just got this note from GPG. Not for today's update but for the next one (which is likely going to be v1.01):



BALANCE- Lord Erebus Bite

Bite's Mana Cost increased, Damage decreased, Armor Reduction decreased.

Mana Cost increased from 300/420/500/595 to 350/500/650/800.

Damage and health gain decreased from 300/500/700/900 to 250/425/600/775.

Armor reduction decreased from to 250/400/600/800 250/400/550/700.

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Reply #76 Top

Quoting Xinoxlx, reply 13

Quoting si1foo, reply 12

Your grammar is off-the-chain, my friend
man do u really thing ur the first to say something like that plus as long as u can read it then u dont need grammer or punctuation

if your mind can read the text and know were to stop then it is not needed and you only really need punctuation if yourreading out loud so u know when to stop quickly
Except as of late I personally cannot tell what you're saying unless I go over it several times. So now I simply skip over it unless it looks like you actually made effort to type correctly.

This is a case of just because you can type poorly doesn't mean you should.

Seconded.  I typically skip over si1foo's posts because they hurt to read... I process things with an inner monologue.  It don't like converting u to you, I don't like missing punctuation, I don't like lots of abbreviations.

The only reason I read that particular post is because I saw the quote of someone complaining about his communication style.

si1foo if you're ok with the fact that lots of people are just going to ignore what you say then that's fine, but just in case you would actually like most people to take you seriously then you should know that we DO pay attention to how much / little effort people put into their communication and if you can't be bothered writing it then most of us can't be bothered reading it.

Reply #77 Top

I agree, at least learn some very basic punctuation.  Writing like that does not make you one of the cool kids and will only cause people to ignore your posts.  My grammar is by no means perfect, but at least it is readable (afaik).

Reply #78 Top

he has the worst armor in the game if u dont get him upgrades for health or armor he is very squish so this is not very aplicable

No he doesn't. Rook has the lowest armor in the game. In fact, Erebus has the second BEST armor in the game (below UB). He also has the 2nd highest health (below Rook).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=944424&topic=49287562    

I just wanted to point out that your own link proves you wrong. erebus starts with 220 armor and rook with 240, almost everyone else is in the 300s. and 220 IS the lowest. Erebus has the lowest armor among all demigods.

Reply #79 Top

Quoting G4N35H, reply 3

he has the worst armor in the game if u dont get him upgrades for health or armor he is very squish so this is not very aplicable

No he doesn't. Rook has the lowest armor in the game. In fact, Erebus has the second BEST armor in the game (below UB). He also has the 2nd highest health (below Rook).

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.php?board=944424&topic=49287562    


I just wanted to point out that your own link proves you wrong. erebus starts with 220 armor and rook with 240, almost everyone else is in the 300s. and 220 IS the lowest. Erebus has the lowest armor among all demigods.

Look at Level 20 numbers.  Erebus gains 35 armor/level, the highest out of any demigod.  Sedna has the lowest armor gain/level at only 22/level.  And what do you mean by everyone else in the 300s?  Torchbearer, Regulus, and Rook all have <=250 armor.  The difference between 220 and 250 armor is an extra 1% damage reduction on autoattacks.


He also starts with 1650 health, just below Oak and Rook and gains 145/level, the 2nd highest of all demigods, just below Rook (150/level).  By comparison Regulus has the second lowest health (1420) and the lowest gain per level (105)

Reply #80 Top

Considering how badly Erebus' skills scale as he levels, he kinda needs those high growths.

Reply #81 Top

Quoting Dracil, reply 4

Erebus gains 35 armor/level, the highest out of any demigod. 

The extra 10 armor per level over oak causes him to catch up at level 19 and pass him on level 20. 

For most of the game erebus has lower armor than oak (base stats only)

Maybe I'll do up a little graph later on when I'm less busy

Reply #82 Top

Quoting TheGuildfordStrangler, reply 5
Considering how badly Erebus' skills scale as he levels, he kinda needs those high growths.

Reason UB's spit is better then his bestial wrath despite BW scaling better is due to the fact the majority of games are decided in the early game, so skill scaling doesn't really have time to be taken into account.

Reply #83 Top

As you can see, erebus does NOT have the best armor, and only really starts to come out on top of the armor pile from levels 10-20.  Stay tuned for more graphs including hps and max hp, maybe even mana and mps

Reply #84 Top

Quoting TheTrav, reply 1

Quoting Xinoxlx, reply 13
Quoting si1foo, reply 12


si1foo if you're ok with the fact that lots of people are just going to ignore what you say then that's fine, but just in case you would actually like most people to take you seriously then you should know that we DO pay attention to how much / little effort people put into their communication and if you can't be bothered writing it then most of us can't be bothered reading it.

 

im only here to state my opinnion if your a asshole who cares about puncuation  so much  then why not right a 800 page book

so ohh well

Reply #85 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 9

im only here to state my opinnion if your a asshole who cares about puncuation  so much  then why not right a 800 page book

so ohh well

I actually quite enjoy reading your posts out loud, they make me laugh XD

Reply #86 Top

max health

max hp

 

hps

hps

Reply #87 Top

so combining those three graphs I'd say erebus starts off with fairly poor survivability in terms of ability to soak hits, which would be a combination of armour and regen,and with middle of the road hp (3rd out of 6 demigods)

His regen from his base stats remains middle of the road throughout the game, his hp remains fairly close to oak, his armour gets a lot better, making him more survivable fairly rapidly, but he's still not really able to tank out any fights until level 11/12. 

Some people reckon the game rarely goes past lvl 15 so try to remember that for some cases the game is virtually over before his stat armor starts becomming an asset.

 

His skills however make a big change to that picture, allowing him greater regen, a mechanism for healing, and two mechanisms for getting out of sticky situations.  Three out of those four things are quite mana dependent though, maybe I should do mana and mps graphs as well, but they will have to wait until tomorrow

Reply #88 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 9

im only here to state my opinnion if your a asshole who cares about puncuation  so much  then why not right a 800 page book

so ohh well

I can't believe this. You actually are thirteen, aren't you? Jesus.

Reply #89 Top

Quoting Lemminkaeinen, reply 13

Quoting si1foo, reply 9
im only here to state my opinnion if your a asshole who cares about puncuation  so much  then why not right a 800 page book

so ohh well
I can't believe this. You actually are thirteen, aren't you? Jesus.

 

I can't believe I'd actually come to an agreement with you in this topic. Does this deserve a hi-five?

Reply #90 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 9

im only here to state my opinnion if your a asshole who cares about puncuation  so much  then why not right a 800 page book

so ohh well

It's not so much that I care about punctuation, more that I find your posts difficult to read, so I skip over them.

It's not about getting it perfect, it's about making an effort.  If I don't think someone has made an effort to be readable, then I'm not going to make an effort to read what they've written.

Reply #91 Top

Quoting TheTrav, reply 12
so combining those three graphs I'd say erebus starts off with fairly poor survivability in terms of ability to soak hits, which would be a combination of armour and regen,and with middle of the road hp (3rd out of 6 demigods)

His regen from his base stats remains middle of the road throughout the game, his hp remains fairly close to oak, his armour gets a lot better, making him more survivable fairly rapidly, but he's still not really able to tank out any fights until level 11/12. 

Some people reckon the game rarely goes past lvl 15 so try to remember that for some cases the game is virtually over before his stat armor starts becomming an asset.

 

His skills however make a big change to that picture, allowing him greater regen, a mechanism for healing, and two mechanisms for getting out of sticky situations.  Three out of those four things are quite mana dependent though, maybe I should do mana and mps graphs as well, but they will have to wait until tomorrow

 

dide u add into the the graphs abilitties  because abbilities would be help ful for most people who dont get that erebus is no were nar the most powerful he is jjust the most useful

Reply #92 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 16

dide u add into the the graphs abilitties  because abbilities would be help ful for most people who dont get that erebus is no were nar the most powerful he is jjust the most useful

 

Sorry these are the english forums.  You might want to get someone to translate your comments into english before you post them.  I'm sure stardock will open some forums for [enter your language here] in the near future so that you can post in your native tongue.

Reply #93 Top

Quoting Sheezwack, reply 17

Quoting si1foo, reply 16
dide u add into the the graphs abilitties  because abbilities would be help ful for most people who dont get that erebus is no were nar the most powerful he is jjust the most useful
 

Sorry these are the english forums.  You might want to get someone to translate your comments into english before you post them.  I'm sure stardock will open some forums for [enter your language here] in the near future so that you can post in your native tongue.

 

asshole  english is my native tounge  but if u like taking the mic out off people with dyslexia  then fgo ahead u mother fucking retarded asshole

Reply #94 Top

Quoting TheGuildfordStrangler, reply 14
I can't believe I'd actually come to an agreement with you in this topic. Does this deserve a hi-five?

I'm all for hi-fives, personally! :inlove:  


Quoting si1foo, reply 18

asshole  english is my native tounge  but if u like taking the mic out off people with dyslexia  then fgo ahead u mother fucking retarded asshole

Never heard of dyslexia that turns "you" into "u" constantly and doesn't allow for the use of punctuation, capital letters and such or, hell, even a sentence structure. You seem to also have Tourette's so perhaps they combine in weird ways.

Get a spell-checker.

Reply #95 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 18

asshole  english is my native tounge  but if u like taking the mic out off people with dyslexia  then fgo ahead u mother fucking retarded asshole

 

If you are serious and not taking the piss, which I doubt based on your previous posts (since you could have just said so) - then you can still take your time and use a spelling/grammar checker.

Reply #96 Top

Quoting si1foo, reply 18

Quoting Sheezwack, reply 17
Quoting si1foo, reply 16
dide u add into the the graphs abilitties  because abbilities would be help ful for most people who dont get that erebus is no were nar the most powerful he is jjust the most useful
 

Sorry these are the english forums.  You might want to get someone to translate your comments into english before you post them.  I'm sure stardock will open some forums for [enter your language here] in the near future so that you can post in your native tongue.
 

asshole  english is my native tounge  but if u like taking the mic out off people with dyslexia  then fgo ahead u mother fucking retarded asshole

Your English is bad and you should feel bad.

Reply #97 Top

D'ont tri to corect peple's gramaare on a forom, u ful!

By the way, it does seem like GPG did take into account Erebus' skills being less powerful past lvl 10 considering the sudden big jump in armor.

Reply #98 Top

erebus having low survivability in low levels ... sure yah right. He has movement speed 6.3, can heal himself and slow his enemy at the same time. I'm not saying he is good or bad in the bigger picture but he definitely has great survivability from level 1 on.

Reply #99 Top

Quoting TheBigOne, reply 23
erebus having low survivability in low levels ... sure yah right. He has movement speed 6.3, can heal himself and slow his enemy at the same time. I'm not saying he is good or bad in the bigger picture but he definitely has great survivability from level 1 on.

 

Obviously bite grants him survivability but on a pure "take damage" scale, Erebus drops very fast from focus fire in the early game. Only thing is any decent Erebus is going to be biting to replenish his life and using his speed to back out when his mana is low. He has good survivability based on the fact he is hit and run with the bite drain (see his character description) but if he is unable to actually use bite but begins to sustain damage, he goes down very fast in the early game

 

 

Reply #100 Top

Quoting chromeweasel, reply 21

Quoting si1foo, reply 18
Quoting Sheezwack, reply 17
Quoting si1foo, reply 16
dide u add into the the graphs abilitties  because abbilities would be help ful for most people who dont get that erebus is no were nar the most powerful he is jjust the most useful
 

Sorry these are the english forums.  You might want to get someone to translate your comments into english before you post them.  I'm sure stardock will open some forums for [enter your language here] in the near future so that you can post in your native tongue.
 

asshole  english is my native tounge  but if u like taking the mic out off people with dyslexia  then fgo ahead u mother fucking retarded asshole
Your English is bad and you should feel bad.

 

now that is a asshole  and  how long should a person spend typing a post  5 mins 10  20

i dont feel i feel bad that there are people in this wordl that are as stupid as you

why should i have to tell everyone im dsylexic i dont like using my disabilities as excuses but things i cant control i can't do anything about

anyone who reads this and things he is lie is a asshole who kbnows nothing  about what it is to be disabled for a fixed period of time