Bomber spam

Out of curiosity, what makes you think he would have lost with a conventional fleet? It sounds to me like his fleet was larger.

But, to more specifically adress your question of a counter, the only real hard counter to bombers are fighters - lots of them. Flak is NOT a counter to bombers (at least not a good one). If you had had all carriers instead of flak and set all your carriers to fighters, you probably could have avoided losing any cap ships (assuming you have shield restore), taken out all his lrms, and chased his carriers away if not destroy them, leaving you to freely take out his homeworld. Unfortunately, that's a very risky build, and you need to be sure he's spamming bombers before taking that route.

Could we please reply either not at all or if so in a SINGLE of his three(3!!) identical threads he opened?

You're advent.  Carriers with fighters and a hylecon with telepush.  Game over, you win.

okay 2 things first of all i dont know how i opend 3 threads but i didnt mean to. 2nd of all the fihgters didnt work cus the first time i fought his fleet and he spammed bombers and i spammed fighters and flak frigs and he took out my caps in a few seconds. the time he ran all around the map and destorying my 2 cap carriers with the push

Since this one has the most posts (and the more recent posts), I'll try to keep everything here.

As said, flak does not work against bombers. Also, you said your carriers had fighters AND bombers, not just fighters. If you scrapped your bombers and started building fighters once you saw his bombers attacking your caps, it was too late. You needed fully built fighters before the start of the encounter.

Also, what caps did you have, and at what level? I'm not an advent player in particular, but if you had a mothership, you should have been able to get a few good shield restores in before 50 bombers killed a level 3 or 4 cap.

even with the sheild restore he still destroed the lv 4 cap very quickly

Right, but if you had had all fighters, you would have killed more of his bombers before they even reached your cap. It probably took them about 3 passes to kill your ship as it was. With all fighters, you could have survived maybe 6 passes, and by then all his bombers should be toast, or at the very least you could retreat your cap to your own territory.

This is becoming a troll post, seriously.  People can't expect a cap to last long against 50 bombers.  25 Vasari carriers = 350 fleet supply.  350 fleet supply of illums = 58.  So let me ask you, what's your point?  If I build 58 illums, how fast will a cap go down if I focus fire them?  What if I built 35 Kodiaks?  It so happens he built 25 carriers, filled them with nothing but bombers, probably had phase missiles teched pretty high.  You should bloody run like the wind if you see that until you have good fighter coverage.  Counters to bomber spam is so easy, and once the bombers are destroyed, his carriers will be drained of AM and all it becomes is a mop up operation.  Heck, you could have just put a few hangers on each of your planets and filled them with fighters and you would have been just fine.  I feel no pity at all for you losing, you played like a noob. 

Sorry, you played worse than I thought.  I now read he was TEC, so fine, 300 fleet supply.  Anyway, you were a moron for trying to chase down 46 carriers and 60 javilens with your tiny fleet.  No wonder you lost completely.

Damn howthe that crul give the guy some slack be side i am sure if that was you with that fleet u would have won easy

i am sure u cloud have take on the bommers tho just get like 20 to 30 flanks along with 2 advent carreis  and the bommer would go bye bye

Flaks don't do much against bombers, wrong damage/armor-type combination. I'd advise a bunch of fighters and 2 Halycons to keep pushing the bombers out of range. With enough fighters 1 might suffice. Still, like How said...it's not necessarily a matter of proper counter-strategies but rather the fact that you got outproduced. Even though a LF is the proper counter to Scouts it will still lose against 20 of them  

Flanks do give bommers lots of danmge if u place them in a group equal good bly any strick craft and when i said to advent carries i ment 2 advent cap carries

Like I said...if you build enough, anything can kill everything. Fighters are still the better choice against bombers, flak are way more useful against fighters. Plus: if you push the bombers away with telekinetic push the flak won't be able to do shit.

seemd like azark and king are the only ones actually trying to help. anyway for you howdididothat, have you ever acutally played agaisnt a skilled bombers spammer? most of the suggestions i got here is stuff i did in game. also he was rampaging right through my empire destorying structures everywhere and then running once i caought up. he got in because my fleet was behind him and the comp coudnlt stop him.

also i intially had him ountnumbered.

  Not tru even if u spam a certin ship it cant beat everthing trust me i know and the telekinetic might push bommers away but it also make them slower so your flanks can catch up to them

Superfleet u should not even bother ask howthe that question beleive me when i say in are top skill match nothings is as easy as it might seems and super fleet u must understand what u did to couter the bommer was really stupid you should remebers that every thing in this game has a weakness u just have to find it

ps plz excasue my spelling

Tired of this discussion...flaks are a bad option against bombers, you'd have to spend far more money on flaks than he has to spend on bombers, period. That makes it a bad counter. Whereas 1 fighter squad will easily keep 2 bomber squads at bay, making it a good counter. Plus they'll be able to pursue the bombers whereas the flaks (not flanks, god damn it ) won't be able to do that, even with telekinetic push.

@superfleet: there's no such thing as a "skilled" bomber spam. Each and every fleet based on 1-2 ships is rather easy to counter. However, once the game is reaching its end the fleets of everyone (should) reach a level where there's a lot of damage dealt either way. So yes, 100bomber squads will kill each and every cap of yours if you do not have appropriate counters. But so would 100HC (pretty much the same cost for vasari/TEC, slightly more expensive for advent). There is no such thing as an uber fleet where all your ships are invulnerable and you won't lose a cap, no matter what.

Oh my gosh howmany times do i have to say this flanks kill all srikecraft period

Yes, they do. Eventually. Not before most of your fleet got wasted by the bombers, though. And even when you kill the bombers, he still has the carriers and flaks do jack against those. Fighters may not be the most effective counter to carriers as well, but at least they can chase them and kill a good deal of them since fighters at least can concentrate their fire where flaks can't. Against a bomber spammer, fighters are a much better investment then flaks, simply because they're way more versitile (you can always use the carriers to produce your own bombers when his bombers are dead, for example) and kill the bombers a good deal faster.

You didn't find my post helpful?  That's a shame.

Let me repeat: 45 carriers + 60 LRMs + 2 Marza verses 26 Carriers + 3 cap.  Sounds like a no brainer, you didn't play well.  I'm sorry that you didn't get the point of my post, which further indicates you have no intention of actually listening to anyone, just trolling. 

If you don't want the advice of a guy that has played over 1,200 games on ICO, fine, be my guest.

Goodbye

Reading is an essential skill.

He added that later to the OP, so it's kinda hard to spot. Nontheless: with 2 Halycons and sufficient Fighter coverage he should've been able to protect his fleet against the bombers with proper micro-management, i.e. timing the telekinetic push of the 2 carriers, setting up the shield protection of guardians etc.

You may have had him outnumbered in the outset. But you should have known he'd have bombers. Know what you're opponent is working with before he takes out your fleet with it. That's probably the reason you lost. Don't engage in a battle like that with ships that aren't going to help. With 45 carriers loaded with bombers and 60 javs, the guy left himself wide open to a fighter spam ANNIHILATION, as fighters are the hard counter for both of those units, 26 drone hosts is definetly not enought to do it though. I mean you can't kill 90 bomber squads and 60 javs fast enough with only 78 fighter squads. By the time your fighters wear down those bombers, the javs had probably already torn up what was left of your caps and started in on your carriers. To counter his fleet you needed to have had close to twice the number of carriers you did. Sick 90 fighter squads on the bombers and the rest just park (hold position behavior) next to the javs and watch their health deplete like a slowmotion missile barrage. AND in that situation, 2 halcyons are going to make the management of those bombers SO much easier, if used properly the bombers would get 0 passes before your fighters mop them up.

You simply didnt have enough ships to counter.

thank you deceiver a suggestion that actually helps. i shouldnt have this problem again.

So is checking the "View Edits" button before responding like an a$$ hole.

I would pull back to one of my planets, position my fleet at the edge of the gravity well and when he jumps after me for pursuit I would be right where he pops up, shoot up the carriers before the bombers are launched, and hopefully you could beat his fleet.  On a more stratigic note, I would build more fighters and pray that he does not have flak nearby.