doctorvixen

demigod = unbalanced

demigod = unbalanced

hello, just wanted to add this game is crap, why? its too easy to win with the torch bearer, he is way better at leveling and dealing damage, especially on large maps. if u play for instance a melee char like oak vs torch bearer its impossible to win.

this game gets old fast. for now i wont play anyone who chooses the torch bearer online.

also the different upgrades u can choose are bullshit because everyone chooses the same paths because if u dont ull lose, only 1 path will be the best so whats the point in having a choice if u have to choose the same thing over and over.

 

had my fun in the beginning, but this game gets old fast

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Reply #27 Top

Erebus is overpowered because he can drain health every 7 secs, and he also gets to teleport.

Torchbearer is overpowered because he has tons of ranged nuke damage and can wipe grunts like no tomorrow.

Rook is overpowered because he can set up tower farms and level up super fast.

Sedna and QoT are overpowered because of their healing rates and ability to shield.

Unclean beast is overpowered because his spit does too much damage and is ranged, plus he can blow up grunts.

Regulus mines and long range make him overpowered too.

So far, I don't think I've seen a post about Oak being overpowered, so maybe don't play as him.

:rofl:

Reply #28 Top

Eternal Silence, I agree with most of what you say.

 

Torch Bearer if he doesn't run like a girl, is usually equal to more money. :)

On the other hand, there was one person playing a hybrd that was scarily nasty.

UB seems to be fairly balanced, the only thing that seems a bit powerful is the spit and then only early on.

Erebus, yeah, he's probably a little bit OP, but that may be my choice of usually playing Sedna.

Reply #30 Top

HAHAHAH, torchbearer is op. i dont even think u should be dignified with a response. 

Reply #31 Top

I'm truely sorry to everyone who is reading this post. I played this guy earlier today as TB and I destroyed him without even trying. He left after I had killed him three times. I guess that's what I get for going against a person who is either new to the game, or completely clueless.

Reply #32 Top

Quoting Zoobi07, reply 6
I'm truely sorry to everyone who is reading this post. I played this guy earlier today as TB and I destroyed him without even trying. He left after I had killed him three times. I guess that's what I get for going against a person who is either new to the game, or completely clueless.

No need to apologize.

There is no overpowered DG. Some may have abilities that are overpowered, but each one has its own strengths and weaknesses. Demigod is a team based game, and the players are supposed to use the strengths of his or her respective DG to offset his allies weaknesses and vice versa. For example, if UB and QoT were working together UB would focus on outleveling and killing enemy DG while QoT would focus on tower pushing. Each DG has something they are especially good at, which doesn't mean they are OP.

TB is good at farming creeps, but he is extremely squishy early game and can be killed easily by almost any other DG if given the chance.

Reply #34 Top

Bye noobtroll.  We won't miss you.  For your future reference, ask for help with something before screaming it's OP.

Reply #35 Top

Quoting doctorvixen, reply 9

Quoting tassox33, reply 2ok lets play 1v1 you torch bearer me erebus
 

no ill take torch bearer and you will take oak

oak owns tb u moron

Reply #36 Top

Yeah you obviously didn't put much thought into your complaint, or maybe you just weren't cut-out for Realtime STRATEGY Games?  either way... I'm really surprised that you think TB cannot be beaten..... that's ridiculous lol.  Sure he CAN be used... but he's an assassin, so obviously if you 1 v 1 him.... you MAY have trouble using someone like OAK... lol.  Ok, and yeah enough people have probably said what I just did... so I just wanted to support them I guess....... lol

Reply #39 Top

but since i cant complain, this game is the best, it's super balanced and the multiplayer functionality works reall good!

 

It's actually very balanced. However, there are MANY factors which IMBALANCE a situation, that you have not considered.

 

1) First, the demigod you played, and the build you played. There are certain builds for different demigods that Torch Bearer can easily destroy. On the latter side, there are demigod builds that thrash Torch Bearer. As we all know, you have played every DG, know every strategy inside out and have thoroughly played and tested this to find how to beat torch bearer. (lol)

 

2) Micro-management. Probably a big one. The demigod that can perform the most tasks in smallest amount of time, farm most efficiently, and spend as little trips outside of lanes to reduce lost XP/gold, will win. This comes down further into a mathematic grind; Knowing your opponents level, his gear, what hes capable of, and what to expect. Then, knowing yourself, what you're capable of. Then mathematics kicks in, knowing what level nukes he has, how much damage they do, how much damage you do, and knowing how much HP you need to kill him without getting killed by any auto-attack/skill. You have to account for everything. Then, knowing when NOT to fight based off of this information, as to not feed.

 

3) Third, and essential to demigod, TEAMWORK. This is a MULTI-PLAYER GAME, revolving around TEAM WORK. If your team sucks (and this part is OUT of your control), then you will PROBABLY lose. A SUPERIOR team, will beat an INFERIOR team. You completely neglect to point out your teammates, their teammates, and how their mistakes can topple upon yours, to exponentially increase the failure of your loss. If you're playing with only yourself in mind, and the most farmed demigod from the other team, YOU FAIL. If you play 1v1, it really cycles back to the multi-player game argument, and the first two points; How your build counters theirs, along with how well you micro-manage.

4) Fourth, probably most importantl as well, SKILL. Yeah, that's right. If your opponent knows the game better than you, outplays you, out-micromanages you, plays to out-gear your demigod based on counter tactics, and has a superior team, YOU WILL HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOSE. CRY MORE.

 

5) Just for added clarification, all of your conclusions are based upon YOUR experiences against a torch bearer. Not a COMPLETELY balanced situation accounting for ALL of the above said factors, just your unorganized experiences of losing. My experiences differ. I know how to fight a torch bearer. I can micro-manage properly. I never tolerate pugs. I can say i'm pretty decent at this game. I don't have any significant problems against torch bearer, even with classes that normally are difficult to play against him with.

 

tl;dr - you suck.

Reply #40 Top

Quoting Extacide, reply 14

but since i cant complain, this game is the best, it's super balanced and the multiplayer functionality works reall good!
 
3) Third, and essential to demigod, TEAMWORK. This is a MULTI-PLAYER GAME, revolving around TEAM WORK. If your team sucks (and this part is OUT of your control), then you will PROBABLY lose. A SUPERIOR team, will beat an INFERIOR team. You completely neglect to point out your teammates, their teammates, and how their mistakes can topple upon yours, to exponentially increase the failure of your loss. If you're playing with only yourself in mind, and the most farmed demigod from the other team, YOU FAIL. If you play 1v1, it really cycles back to the multi-player game argument, and the first two points; How your build counters theirs, along with how well you micro-manage.

4) Fourth, probably most importantl as well, SKILL. Yeah, that's right. If your opponent knows the game better than you, outplays you, out-micromanages you, plays to out-gear your demigod based on counter tactics, and has a superior team, YOU WILL HAVE A TENDENCY TO LOSE. CRY MORE.

 

The game that made the OP start crying was a 1v1 game. So basically it boils down to me being better than him. I've seen some terrible players, but this guy just sat in my circle of fire and wait to get nuked down. If I had been playing my main demigod(regulus) the OP would be crying for regulus nerf now instead of TB.

Reply #41 Top

Dear GPG, paper is far to powerful, and needs to be nerfed

sincerley, rock

p.s. scisors is fine

ok, 2 things. first of all, learn to spell. second learn to play. maybe if circle of fire is to powerful, you shouldnt stand in it. or interupt it, since its one of the most obvious atacks in the game.

 

 

Reply #42 Top

yes i suck, i know this so theres really no need trying to try insult me this way because i agree on me sucking (so find something else to do that).

i admit that i left after getting killed three times, but the game was basically over anyway and i dont think there's a penalty for leaving is there (hint hint hint), had a bad day at work and really didnt feel like playing a losing battle for 30 more minutes and as far as i know of there's no "admit defeat" button

i hosted games and they are called where called beginner game, why do pro's join then?, i would have stayed if i host game that says pros only.

second i am not complaining about the balance in >= 2 v 2's, i am complaining about balance in 1  v 1's.

even though i suck i seem to win all (ok most..) 1 v 1 games with tb, just by going damage (fire build) and denying flags and lvling up for the first 5 -8 levels or so. basically the game is then over because he cant stop me taking over his portals next. i  put all upgrades on the demigod none on spawning unit/citadel so it doesnt matter shit if he buys armor, i have that too and more money and a higher level. so what if the enemy didnt buy upgrades for his demi but for units/citadel? well then he is fc*d even harder because it only means i get even more money and experience from killing units! personally i have no idea how to beat this tactic and i cant prctise on it either because the ai is a moron even on hard.

might have been a bit pissed off when i posted this thread (lol) but i am a hothead.

**Apologies***

Still, i do feel the game is unbalanced in 1 v 1. spawning units should be a tad more powerfull...

Reply #43 Top

i am complaining about balance in 1  v 1's.

 

What you fail to realize however, is that this game is balanced around team work, not 1v1. Different demigods fare in different ways, because they all don't act the same. They were made to fight in conjunction with one another to compensate for all of their downfalls, and even synergize their strengths into what makes their setup very strong. You can't balance it around 1v1 without it having a negative effect upon the team balance/

 

And even then, you base this around YOUR experiences. I've come to find 1v1 very balanced, and completely based around skill vs skill. Superior player is the one who wins, nothing too complex about that. You lost, it means you need to learn.

 

yes i suck, i know this so theres really no need trying to try insult me this way because i agree on me sucking (so find something else to do that).

 

Okay, so maybe it's not 1v1 thats imbalanced. It's YOU that is an imbalance. If you fight someone thats good, and you suck, that is not an issue with the game. You lost because of a gap in skill, not a fault in the stability of balance.

 

i hosted games and they are called where called beginner game, why do pro's join then?, i would have stayed if i host game that says pros only.

 

Honestly, I doubt anyone pro joined your game. If anything, they're decent players. Instead of fighting people who suck, fight people who ARE actually good, and LEARN. You won't learn anything by playing people that have nothing more to show than you yourself do.

 

even though i suck i seem to win all (ok most..) 1 v 1 games with tb

 

Against random people, whos skill level you don't REALLY know. Using ONE demigod against a combination of demigods. There are a-lot of factors neglected here. 

Reply #44 Top

I think the OP is trying to be funny.

Reply #45 Top

Quoting Extacide, reply 18


 

Honestly, I doubt anyone pro joined your game. If anything, they're decent players. Instead of fighting people who suck, fight people who ARE actually good, and LEARN. You won't learn anything by playing people that have nothing more to show than you yourself do.

 

This. The only way to improve is to play against good players. For instance, my team got 2nd in the ESL 3v3 tourney 2 weekends ago. However, we lost the last match because it was against the best players in the esl demigod league that day. We lost, yes, but we gained knowledge and some insight on how we should have gone about trying to defeat a dual support with rook team. For instance, my sedna partner, as soon as the match was over said that he probably should have picked up silence(he plays sedna as pure support, only picks up pounce towards the last few levels) instead of pounce. Silence would have given me and my oak partner time to burst through the qot's shield and kill him before the sedna could heal.

Best advice you can give to new players is after you learn the basics in single player, play against GOOD players, it is the only way you will learn how to truely play the game.

 

For clarification, yes I am tooting my own horn >.<.

Reply #46 Top

OP is just having a bad day and complain on the TB to relieve his stress. Let him do it....TB isn't that great really though, too squishy.

Reply #47 Top

For clarification, yes I am tooting my own horn >.<.

 

My team got third in the 2v2, and I know exactly why we lost and what we could have done to prevent it. It was more or less a mistake on our part rather than ignorance of the game, but a combination of both none the less that we'll throw back to the next cup. Pretty confident we'll place top 3 again. :F

Reply #49 Top

get a room

Reply #50 Top

I love when this kind of post become a land of no one for random and ridicolous post instead of troll city, at least we get a good laugh.