StarTrek VS. StarWars (The one thing no one should bring up)

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Pros of Star Wars: Darth Maul, Obi Wan, Yoda, Mace Windu, Kit Fisto, wookiees, the actor that plays Padme, and the force. There is probably more... this list just gives an almost total sum of the pros.

Cons of Star Wars: Anakin Skywalker and his emo rage in episodes 1-6, The actor that play Anakin Skywalker in 2-3, driods being retarded in some ways and not retarded in others, some driods just being retarded, seriously - too much retarded artificial intelligence in Star Wars, Darth Maul dies =[, Ewoks beat the Imperials in ground combat. There are probably more cons to star wars, but this pretty much sums up the greater sum of cons of star wars.

Pros of Star Trek: All the borg have sexy face, 7of9 (also sexy), Disposable redshirts, AI is not purposely retarded, Gorn, Klingons, Romulans, PICARD, Janeway in the first season, photons, Tuvok, Species 8472, and the Voth. There is probably more... this list just gives an almost total sum of the pros.

Cons of Star Trek: Kirk, Disposable redshirts, Ferengi, THE MAJORITY OF TREK TECHNOBABBLE AKA TREKNOBABBLE NEVER MAKES SENSE GIVEN THE DEFINITIONS OF THE WORDS BEING USED, phasers, The Next Generation AFTER Rodenberry died, ENTERPRISE. There are probably more cons to star trek, but this pretty much sums of the greater sum of cons of star trek.

Star wars is several magnitudes older in civilization, and thus technology. Their technology is seemingly superior, despite the fact that they use manned turbolasers ;-\

It's probably because I've never read the books, but I think Star Wars lost that battle with Jar Jar.

Star wars games however are infinitely more badass than Trek. So there's that. But if you want to make it about the movies, I'm going with the Trekkies.

It'd be fucking scary to have a bunch of Borg Jedi though..

God I'm such a geek.

Sorry, but I just have to say.

Warhammer 40k Annhilates both universes....

Whole bunch of borg/jedi type factions there alone eldar for example.

And complete planetary destruction happens on an almost daily basis, there. and lets not mention the super genetically engineers 8 foot tall humans in armor equavalent to a tank or the Avataar of gods, being summoned on a consistent basis.

There is also a nice crossover story called "Portal" from the guy who brought us the Daystrom Institute Technical Library.

Not to mention Orks with guns...is just awesome.

I like this one better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNxhrPaaCA4

Yeah, that's the classic, but I like the new one better, it's also more funny, imho .

It's not something that can be compared anyway. 

Star Wars = movies

Star-Trek = Series.

Star trek did make movies but based on the series.

I wonder how it would of been if they had made a series based on Star Wars.

Dear god i think that might have been just as bad as the Star Trek movies

Star Trek = more realistic

Star Wars = OMGLOOKATTHATSUPERLAZEROFDEATHIWANTONENOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

Star Trek isn't necessarely more realistic. Star Trek is just pure science fiction, whereas Star Wars combines science fiction with fantasy.

Stargate owns all!

STAY ON TOPIC!!!

So you think that Starwars is better?

STARWARS IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!

STARTREK IS ALSO AWESOME!!!!!!!

THey acctually made four series that I can recall.

1st In was in the 1980s. about C-3PO and R-2 nad the go on adventures or some dinky thing. Was a realy childrens show.

2nd made in same time . About The ewoks and they do some thin, I don't know collect berries or get chased by somtin also stunk.

3rd more reacent like 03 04 was a Cartoon. They were more like just 15 min. clips put were realy good cuase it was just action. Set betwean 2 and 3.

4th is the just coming out set in same time. Is a animated show. Its Ok.

They also have made more movies than just the Origal Six, many are live action.

Also the STAR TREK MOVIE LOOKS SO COOL!!    

What are the names of some of the other movies? I've never seen or heard of them except for now...

Star Wars Clone Wars, it was out a couple of years ago (03), then in 2008 Star Wars The Clone Wars came out 

They are making a Star Wars TV Show. It's set in between ROTS and ANH and focuses on the Empire hunting down the Jedi through the use of the bounty hunters, primarly Bob Fett, who is the main lead in the series.

Much information has been published then retracted about this show but i follow it's progree on IMDB, though if you don't not have a pro account you may be limited on what details you can gather.

Untitled Star Wars TV Series

Oh as to the OP, and yes this debate is endless without resolve, but as a fan of both i could detail why both sides of the fence could emerge victorious.

I'll side with Star Wars though today...the Death Star is quite a mountain to climb, even with trek tech, though it's not without its failings.

And to the Warhammer guy......fail. At least when Anubis introduced an outside realm he used another TV/Movie franchise...not a board game.

Isn't the line........."Stay on target"

i would have to go with star wars mainly because they i think have a somewhat more realistic approach with especially weapon systems...

Even though they have droids and computers, they still have the guns manned. 

Other than that, Star Wars rules because the ships would so own Star Trek's ships--even an Old Republic Dreadnaught  could easily take out the Enterprise-D (i think that is what the Galaxy-class enterpirse is) even though it wouldn't really be able to manuver very well--though it is 600 meters long.

Yeah, ever since the AToC ICS came out there has been no point in a Star Wars vs Star Trek direct combat debate as a result of the power it puts SW ships at(200 gigatons per turbolaser shot for an Acclamator troop transport).

Here is a major con of Star Trek: Lack of Seatbelts

Con of Star Wars: episodes 1-3

Seriously, they should have just made the New Jedi Order books into movies.  Or almost any of the many other books.

The most important thing to remember when debating Star Wars and Star Trek is that the ST novels/books are NOT canon, while all of the Star Wars EU IS canon.  So Star Wars has a lot more stuff to draw on while Star Trek is limited to what has been on TV or in a movie.

This is what i think they should do now with Star Wars--either make movies out of the books and/or make games out of them that are NOT crap.  Kinda like how Empire at War turned out.  I thought that would be more like the old Star Wars Rebellion game that came out 1998.

Seat belts are pointless.  At the speeds you need to move for interstellar travel and space combat, you die.  Which is why Star Wars fails, they all splat instantly anywhere near the speeds needed.  Inertial dampening was invented for Star Trek, but it's still a necessity for such activities.  Manned turrets are pointless too.  Even with today's tech we can beat human reaction time with a computer.  At the point where interstellar travel of that scale is even theoretical, people are long since obsolete for manning a turret.

In a war, every Star Trek planet would be blown to kingdom come, Star wars ships move faster at faster than light speeds.  They'd never actually hit an enemy ship though.  The precision targeting capabilities of the opposition would shred them, since a small fighter running into a super star destroyer can take it out.  What takes Jedi voodoo aiming in Star Wars is automated in Star Trek

To be honest they both are around the same age well, wars is a bit younger but the thing is that Star Trek has a bigger following that Star Wars, if you go to conventions, which ones do you see more of, star trek, the thing with star trek is that there more, if you think star trek technology is basically what you see on screen you are wrong, it probably less than 10% of the technology that is avaliable, it leave more room for imigination. but both are the same is that the Naboo people and the rebels, in wars, and the federation, klingon in trek, fight outmatched in every engagement and somehow win, I think that stuff is overrated. but then again, that theme keeps coming up, eg LOTR.

If only this convo came up before the prequels

to bth the real question is Doctor Who or Star Trek?