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Question: How many of you all are going to go back to playing DotA as soon as 6.60 comes out with more heroes (on top of the 80 already there), new items, and new rebalances?
I promise you will see tons more games like demigod and dota. This is just the start, just like tower defence games.
When I played warcraft3, I only added people who didn't play dota onto my friends list.
The moment they started playing the game (often for "lol it's fun to piss them off") you could see their personality take a nose dive.
While there are a few areas of the dota community which are good, the rest are 7 year old ADHD losers on a suger high. At least they seem that way.
I just can't wait to get back to playing with people who swear at me in foreign languages!
Not.
People in DotA, for some reason, expect you to memorize all the item combinations before even daring to join a game with other people. I joined a "noobs only" game and some idiot still went crazy over me standing a little too long in the base looking at the items. He said I should play with AI first... 
It seems even the people who consider themselves so bad so as to join a noobs only game still feel entitled to swear. If they're so much better, why don't they go play in another, non-noobs game?
Just a FYI, I have experienced some of the same extreme douchebaggery so common in DotA on our beloved Demigod (the few times I got multiplayer to function and connct me). The more you rely on your team the more you will raeg when your team is noob. Not that I'm one of them, but I def. see where it comes from. And if Demigod is expecting the game to involve teamwork, then you can expect the same ill treatment from your teammates when you screw up.
I played Dota for a bit long ago. And the only hero I ever took was the Rifleman because he was the easiest to play IMO. And I could spend 2-3 minutes looking up the recipes and then I sometimes buy the wrong ingredients. Then came the elitists and the droppers. And I was called trash names because I wasn't a good player.
Demigod made a few things that were easier for those like me.
1) Simpler heroes
2) No recipes
3) Community seems nice. (I'll wait and see because I haven't been able to play a single Pantheon/Skirmish game)
I'll always play DotA too. I'll be playing DotA long after I quit this or any other game. It's a way to hang out with friends who've moved states. We all hop on and play around.
I think people get mad at the DotA crowd because yes, DotA players are assholes. I'll be the first to admit it. They have short fuses because the game takes more time to learn than any other game I've ever played, which needless to say is hundreds. The learning curve is so steep and your team can be completely curb stomped if one player on your team doesn't know whats going on. The game also basically relies on the honor system in that you're praying your team stays, if one person leaves it can be the nail in the coffin. People have seen so many leavers and idiots that they just don't have any patience anymore.
It can be hard to keep the game fresh so me and my friends try stupid little things to keep the romance so to speak. We'll do RD games and go random or try and kill the fountain. Just stupid little things to play outside the box. Half the games you'll find us laughing uncontrollably because of something stupid.
Comparing DotA to DG is like comparing starcraft to DoW2. It's not even close to being the same game. They're technically the same genre but it's apples to oranges. I think DG is a good thing in that it gets more people playing the genre. I know a bunch of friends and their wives who dont like DotA because its so daunting but DG is accessible. I don't want to say it's dumbed down but it's less complex and that's not a bad thing.
DotA has carved out it's own niche that no one will be able to take on. It's complexity and diversity are staggering and I don't see any company coming close to it. But all that complexity is scary for a lot of people. The hundreds of games a person has to go through to become even slightly not shitty are too much for people to put up with.
DG fills that role nicely as it's not hard to get used to. It's very straight forward, theres no recipes and their prices to remember. There's no denying or last hitting, orb walking, deeking. None of that exists so thats less that the average person has to learn which means the average person can have fun right out of the gate instead of needing months of practice. Now a person might play DG and one day they decide they want to take a step up to DotA because suddenly the whole thing isn't as staggeringly scary to them. How is that a bad thing for either game?
I think all the animosity stems from DotA players being dicks. People get turned off of DotA because of that and so once DG came out it's like a club house for the disseffected former DotA players. Now they can stand in their fort across the street from the bully and go "no fuck you!!!!!!!" It's just a pissing contest of sorts and it's all a little sad for either side.
It's a strange relationship between DotA and DG and people need to understand that. They both help eachother out. The people screaming over the fence at the other just make themselves look foolish.
if demigod aint fixed by that time im probly leaving , and as another poster said dota has a lot on demigod atm , demigod has freshness/bugs dota has stability/balance.
and any competetive game gets a DB fanbase , its the way the world works
signed,
Nothing to add 
Dota got into cybersport, there are championships held worldwide and teams sposored by known brands host dota sections. This fact IS something to respect, and Demigod is far from this right now.
Dota community sucks no more than any well-grown internet gaming community sucks. Computer games ARE played by kids and teenagers. Internet DOES bring a freedom to troll, shitspeak and not receive a beating, thats what those suckers lack in everyday life when they get loled at, punched, kicked and humiliated and cant fight back. Or they dont get all of those, but they are not strong enough themselves to call someone a !*#$ and be able to fight back when seeing a fist flying into their face.
Therefore, any gaming community will reach this stage at some point. It just takes time. And it is not DEGRADATION, you might think, "Oh right now Demigod community is so nice i hope it remains like that"... and later you will see "This community felt like any other, its not any better than Dota now...". Its just a matter of maturing. At first, community consists of people you can actually count, remember. You will regred to shit talk, or leave games alot, etc, because people will remember you, and wont play with you or wont talk with you. When this community will grow to the size of Dota community, it will pass this stage. You wont be able to remember it all, you will know like 1% or less people personally and therefore, you will be able to call someone a fooker and leave games and you wont loose much, opening opportunity for shit-talks and all that negative stuff you hate in Dota community.
So actually, having trolls, idiots, shit-talkers is a sign of a mature, healthy internet gaming community, not a sign of something foul or rotten.
If you want it to change - you should require registration with a passport or some sort. One person one account, period, until you die and get reborn and hit an age you can play demigod again... Stardock went this way, kinda, at least in the game you cannot create new accounts like in WC3, you must stick with 1 acc, the one you reg ur serial to. Thats the way to go. If you would also get only 1 forum account, or if forum account would show, is this person a legal game user (account bound to the game serial) or just a visitor (account not bound). That could help...
The new heroes, hero remakes and new items are looking good in current beta state. So I guess I´ll have a look at the release version of .60
Yes, DotA isn´t very newbie friendly. But once you played a few random games, it´s really good. If you play with and against good players.
Demigod is the one and only now, hoping they add new stuff soon after solving the connection issues.
Dota's a great game..but I've played it for years and it just doesn't hold my interest anymore.
With that said....Have fun waiting for 6.60
Dota, balance? Not really. Demigod is, though.
It happens EVERY time in DotA, and hardly ever in Demigod. You just got lucky.
The reason is probably that most of the DotA elitists won't even give Demigod a chance - it's for us weaklings.
What? No. Starcraft and DoW2 are very different. First of all, SC doesn't have heroes, no cover, no capture points, and you build bases. The unit cap is much higher, etc...
What YOU did is compare apples to oranges, but DotA to DG is not apples to oranges. DG is like DotA's younger, more refined brother.
edit: Sorry for double post.
It's a hell of a lot more balanced than people seem to think. People join pubs and watch a troll warlord face rape an entire team and say ZOMG hes so OP! Except he's not, you're an idiot for not countering him. There is a counter for everything in the game, there in lies the balance. Whether or not you choose or are smart enough to has no bearing.
The best hero in an idiots hands is trash, the worst hero in a great players hands is amazing.
DoW and SC are 2 completely different games. They're RTS, end of story. They play nothing alike (and DoW2 IMO is compelte fucking trash, DoW1 was amazing). You make units and fight at the core.
DG and DotA are RTS-RPGs end of story. Beyond the fact that you control a hero and you kill creeps and destroy the throne/citadel they are nothing alike. At the core foundation they're the same that's it. If you think they're alike in any way outside of that you're kidding yourself.
Congratulations? You are here though, so that's not a very special proclamation.
I loled
Sorry, but it's primarily the fault of most DotA players. They are often a very unfriendly community to newcomers and Demigod has so far served as a haven to get people into this genre. Those who take sides typically want to shoo DotA jerks away and DotA players jump in to heckle Demigod players because their game has a lot less heroes or doesn't have a hugefan base (yet).
FPS fans don't usually fight this way between titles because usually there's just one guy on a map that gives you lip. It's just a problem with the DotA community in general. Not all players in DotA are like this but you'll never get into a game as a new player w/o getting kicked or massive hatred upon you while trying to learn the ropes of the 90+ heroes, and that's even after reading up on the game.
yeah the non-dota players that keep on calling dota a trash game , or that dota players should just get away from dg , or as soon as you compare the games they say DG is a lot better we dont need your dota "insert foul word here " ideas have nothing to do with that .
its not like the non-dota players keep on aggravating and taunt the dota players openly .
/sarcasm off
i havent even played dota... EVER.... and wtf do i need 80 heroes for...... oh wait... 100....
Yknow why i play games? To have fun. Playing dota is WORK. Work i don't get paid for. So realy no thx. I'll stick to FUN.
if you havent played the game why are you here trolling ?, this is clearly not a topic for you.
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