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Favor Items ruin the game.

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Favor Items ruin the game.

from Demigod Forums

The key to getting new players into a game is balance. Skill should decide whether or not you win or lose.  They should learned this lesson badly from WoW.  Favor items are not only a minor edge, but absolutely crush new players with the head start you get.  The 15% run speed is not just amazing, it's godly versus a new player. Not because of skill but because in close matches even 1 kill can decide the game.   If 3 random people had 15% run speed versus 3 other randoms with no or much weaker favor items there would be little chance of the 0% run speed team winning.  

 

We saw this in WoW. You can't create necessary homogeny.  If everyone has the minor speed, boars speed, or ____ speed enchants it simply becomes redundant to have them.  And the fact is everyone did have them. I don't know about later on because i've played a bunch of single player and some MP and well you can't kil what you can't catch.  Doesn't matter if you can hit for 1,000,000.

 

Anyways i'd hope to see NO favor games to encourage players or change the favor system. THe idea that you have to grind any sort of points as a new player is a turnoff.  When i first bought this game i thought it would be fun because the favor system was an easy grind.  But it's not. YOu'd have to spend 10-20 HOURS to get the best item. WHat is this? A fkin MMO? GImme a break. I don't play MMOs because they are grind trash.

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Reply #76 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting Agent, reply 25

Banded Armor (550 gold)

+400 Health, +5 health per second.

I'm not sure Banded Armor is wroth it.

Since he had the same hit points as me, and since banded armor gives 400 hit points, it seems that he bought the same armor item as I did, unless you can figure another set of items he could have bought to add up to 400 extra hit points.  So the difference appears to be in the favor item he was allowed to equip.  He gets to win because he is allowed to point and click something on a favor item menu, and I get to loose because I can't do that.  That's not my concept of fun, its not my concept of spending money on a game.

 

well i have already fleshed out that your a liar or cant see when people uses pots so dont say such invalid thingies :D

Reply #77 from Demigod Forums Top

Favor items are ruining the game but NOT for any of the reasons listed in the OP.  If the OP thinks favor items are too good then he can go earn some himself instead of complaining about other people who did earn them.

However, favor items are ruining the game because for many people, earning them is impossible due to bugs keeping favor  permanentely stuck, and keeping favor points with a negative balance.  Therefore, those players have a huge disadvantage in not being able to acquire the same items as their opponents.

That is definitely favor items ruining the game and is by far and without question the #1 thing wrong with Demigod and that must be fixed immediately.

Once/if that is fixed though, then favor items will be making the game better instead of ruining it.

 

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Reply #78 from Demigod Forums Top

is it possible that he bought his stuff quicker than you and capped a flag or killed some creeps before this epic clash of the titans began and thus he leveled up on you during the fight?

Reply #79 from Demigod Forums Top

Quoting bman654, reply 3
is it possible that he bought his stuff quicker than you and capped a flag or killed some creeps before this epic clash of the titans began and thus he leveled up on you during the fight?

 

 

10 secs into the game ... might be an exxageration aswell but apparently they walked right to eachother and clashed

Reply #80 from Demigod Forums Top

is it possible that he bought his stuff quicker than you and capped a flag or killed some creeps before this epic clash of the titans began and thus he leveled up on you during the fight?

It was a small map.  As soon as the game started, I clicked on the shop, bought my two armors, then right clicked out to the nearest flag.  On the way there I selected my skill.  We clashed about as soon as it was possible to clash.  I said 10 seconds, but I obviously didn't sit there with a stopwatch in my hand, so if it was 15 seconds it makes no difference.

He was the same level as me.

Reply #81 from Demigod Forums Top

Did his team get a fortitude flag during the fight? That would have added some hitpoints to him.

Reply #82 from Demigod Forums Top

The second favor item on the list gives you the same stats as the banded armor, as well as -10% death penalty. He could have had that, scaled armor, and the 2 health pots.

It would help if you could remember whether he was hitting harder than you were.

Reply #83 from Stardock Forums Top

However, favor items are ruining the game because for many people, earning them is impossible due to bugs keeping favor permanentely stuck

Which means that a bug is ruining the game for people. 

Personally, I think that all of the items should be balanced and made available from the outset without any point costs in any truly competitive setting but for custom and other games, favor items (as they're intended to work) are fine.

Reply #84 from Demigod Forums Top

Favor items are a nice addition IMO, it lets people tweak their demigod to their playstyle, and favor items can only really get overpowered in the extreme cases where someone accrues enough gold to buy a ton of artifacts, i.e domination games with max points.  I did this for fun and while yes I combined Furious Blade with the Belt of Giants to turn my Rook into an absolute monster, it took me two hours to finish this match and I hd also aqquired enough cash for deathbringer, allfather ring, bulwark of ages, etc.

 

Favor items are balanced fine, they're available to everyone, it doesn't really take that long to save up enough for the most expensive ones, and taking one over the other gives various trade-offs.  The game would be less ineresting without favor items, and demigods would be less customizable.