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Itsmevic the Early Game Quitter -- worst team player in the game?

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Itsmevic the Early Game Quitter -- worst team player in the game?

from Sins Forums

 

So, an excellent player and I were doing a 3v3 with Itsmevic on our team.  He was quickly beaten up in a 2v1 after only building disciples against a TEC opponent and starting off with two civic labs, quitting the game after about 20 mins.  (Somehow, I knew something like that was gonna happen.)  Instead, he should have built illuminators and run his cap and his fleet away to the middle of the map where he might have been able to help our team or at least occupy the opponents for a while.

After a long drawn out fight where I and my teammate had excellent game play, clearly demonstrating the ability to roll any two of the other guys on the map, we ended up losing since it was 3v2 against three decent players.  I'm blaming this loss on Itsmevic who needs to learn how the Team game is played and what to do when things aren't going well for you early on.

 

 

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Reply #26 from Sins Forums Top

I won't come out and say I am itsmevic's and rubbee's greatest fan ever, but I have played with them both.

From what I have seen their styles are different. Saurabh I do not know. But playing style X with name A and style Y with name B would be hard, especially since both play Vassari so much. It isn't as if they have a different style for each race, this would require a different one for each race that they follow depending on who is logged in.

Generally what I have noticed rubbee likes to be more econ and itsmevic likes to be more aggressive and build up his fleet.

Are you REALLY sure of this claim that they are making that all 3 are the same person?

Reply #27 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting crashmatusow, reply 4
yes, i've heard some things about this name, but still...

i love how pro players always yell at the noobs for quitting. wonder if they ever remember their first times getting sandwiched back when they started. yelling doesn't help, just scares the nubkins away.

FYI - this happened to me a few nights ago. I JUST got an egg out in time. I ended up towards the end of the game being top 5 for fleet and eco by the end and was running around  sucking the other team's feeder's planets and putting up starbases etc...

I didn't win the game for us by myself but me staying in meant I was able to draw away other resources/kill their infra etc...

Siege of Centauri
Reply #28 from Sins Forums Top

It's plain and simple: no matter how bad it's going for you, you can still help your team win, as long as you have a single planet, fleet, cap or colonizer still alive. You can delay, harass, annoy and distract. Leaving just because you lost a fight or don't have the upper hand or the enemy fleet isn't blowing up in a fancy lightshow (though yours is) and thus leaving just sucks for your team. I wholeheartedly agree with Hack here.

Reply #29 from Sins Forums Top

This all i have to say regarding the names of itsmevic and RubeeIs.  IF you really think they are different people, howcome rubee doesn't have a forums name to defend himself?  Its pretty simple, because you can only have one forums name per computer, and he already has itsmevic.

Reply #30 from Sins Forums Top

Saurabh has his own forum name.  If that's true then it cant be saurabh

 

[_]-Greyfox

Reply #31 from Sins Forums Top

I dont think people have realizs this but u can make more than one forum name here the only way to check is there member nomber

Reply #32 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting itsmevic, reply 16



Quoting P5yy,
reply 13
At the end of the day ,heres what should be set in stone....

Firstly Surrendering is worse then quitting. So dont even bother touching the surrender button.

Secondly. ,If you are dying or want to quit then CALL IT. Tell everyone you think the game is over. Use Enter and type!

 

1) CALL IT -> TEAM WINNING their battles -> DONT QUIT


2) CALL IT ->TEAM LOSING their battles -> ALL TEAM QUIT

3) CALL IT -> TEAM STALEMATE in battles -> DISCUSS WITH TEAM -> DISCUSS WITH OPPONENTS -> ALL TEAM QUIT

4) CALL IT -> TEAM ARE NOOBS , OBLIVIOUS and dont even respond to your CALL -> DISCUSS WITH OPPONENTS -> SOLO QUIT

The Entire team should Quit together or within 5 minutes of each other. Final battles are ALLOWED.

If a player Quits ,and his team wants to play on , then the player who quits has broken the rules.However the exception is that if the team is bunch of noobs who do not respond to your call , then you can quit aslong as you discuss with the winning team who will probably have sympathy for you being the only player who actually made units.

In Itsmevic case , he has broken the rules because he hasnt CALLED.

If he CALLS , his team can then tell him that his survival is helping them win their battle which is also 2v1. Trying to survive against the clock is often quite fun in itself.

However , it might be the case that his team are stalemate and eventually he will die , and it will become 2v3 anyway and they will lose. At this point...DISCUSSION is important. Players can REASSESS and RECALL 30 minutes later to see if there is any improvement. In 30 mins time , Itsmevics allies might have killed an opponent and come to his rescue.

So in the end...Itsemivic what you have done wrong is not to discuss or appreciate the fact you HAVE teammates who might be winning. So enough with the bullshit "enjoy the game" speech , If you dont CALL , then your destroying the enjoyment for others.

 
 


 

good grief there's more dialog here than in a presidential debat.  I love how there are some that will try and "break it all down" for the rest of us to read and absorb as if they are they authoritive figure in doing what is right or wrong in this game.  if the game is lost it's lost, regardless, all this notify this guy, notify that guy is b.s., really it is, you should really listen to the way you sound, it's almost childish.  you didn't read my post above obviously or your just the type that just has to have the last word regardless if it makes sense.  that's fine, have your little hay day in the snow.  but to recap or put it in simplier terms for you, I will only quit if I can no longer offer my team help, that help be it financial wise or other ways...there is absolutely no point in continueing if you can't contribute.  Not all my games are like this, in fact I might quit 2 games out of 15 games and only when I can't offer anything else to the table period.  Before you go making comments on something you yourself are guilty for perhaps you should do your research because there isn't ONE person in this game that doesn't quit for one reason or another, NOT ONE.  Listen, we can go on and on about this, back and forth like two little school kids fighting over a pb & j sandwich, but it's not gonna happen, I've said what I have to say, some will respect others will not, that's just life man.  Get a grip dude, just enjoy the game and stop bad mouthing people, it does nothing but destroy the community as a whole.

 

He's trying to estalbish rules which can be standardized. I liek rules because they make sense. I dont like how this thread was started because it was arbitrary but it does bring up a point. All my wins are because I owned a guy and he quit. They were small games. In a 3v3 he should have called. Thats that.

Reply #33 from Sins Forums Top


Quoting Howdidudothat, reply 19
ugh...I liked it when you weren't around.  It was so much nicer that way.  Go back to what you were doing, because, frankly, no one cares what you say.

 

I realize you are a senior poster and that you are a contributer to the community, but be constructive. Please do.

Reply #34 from Sins Forums Top

I contribute when necessary.  itsmevic trolls for no reason.  I've responded with logic before, but have just been pushed aside or been trash talked and I have given up with him.  It's better just to ignore what he says and move the thread on to a new topic.  Seriously.

Reply #35 from Sins Forums Top

Ive seen itsmevic and Rubee in the same game once, so ... unless he has 2 pcs, they might not be 1 person.

Reply #36 from Sins Forums Top

So what is this black list douchebaggery, I need a good laugh

 

Edit: nvm, just missed it upon my first skim through

Reply #37 from Sins Forums Top

Quoting Hack78, reply 7



Quoting Bravenue,
reply 6
Well, OK, the original post didn't say anything about him quitting not for the first time like that. Hm, I guess noobs who refuse to learn are equally annoying as pros who refuse to give advice to and then complain about noobs.

I've actually played only two online games so far and was lucky to have more experienced players on my team. Who also were kind enough to give some advice on which ships to build against which enemy, which planets to take, build order etc.





Actually, I find that newbs/noobs ignore advice far more often then they sit there going "tell me what to do".

Here is a classic example - I had a guy send his lvl 7 egg into a fight without anyback to "rescue me" in a fight I was losing. I could see him coming from 3 grav wells away. He wouldn't turn around no matter what I told him - I guaranteed he would lose it in about 10 seconds. I told him I would quit if it came into the combat grav well (my reasoning being it was the only ship available to colonise and quickly clear the planets of the guy I was in the furball with - my ally could hit his exposed flank). Guess what happened - cap goes boom and I gg (my fleet was making a final stand) and quit as we then had no caps between us, and I was getting pushed back grav well by grav well.

I acknowledge I got beaten - but it surely pisses me off that my ally won't listen and did dumb stuff. Sending a lvl7 cap against a fleet packed with LRM is suicide...

Bullshit, they suck overall and probably don't have the economy you do.

Reply #38 from Sins Forums Top

Very friendly words which will encourage everyone to try out multiplayer O:)

 

On a more serious note: being inexperienced does lead to smaller fleets/weaker economy, yes. But that doesn't mean that they can't contribute anything to the game. What Hack refers to is not an example of bad gameplay (i.e. economy and fleetbuilding) but bad tactics, which he explicitely advised against. So it's not a matter of experience or routine in macro-/micro-management but plain stubbornness and stupidity. The critical point is: newbies are very welcome. They won't be invited to play skilled pug games, of course, but nontheless I wouldn't mind playing with them as long as the teams are balanced out.

But: newbies who think they know better or don't want to listen to advice and improve themselves might as well continue playing singleplayer where all of their awesome strategies work against the skillful AI. Being welcomed or not is not a matter of skill but of attitude.

Reply #39 from Sins Forums Top

Bullshit, they suck overall and probably don't have the economy you do.

I have no idea what point you are making here... Are you supporting or opposing the statements you quoted???

Thanks for the suporting words Azrak - you summed it up well. I have nothing against new players UNTIL they refuse to work as a team and listen/learn. At this point they are no longer a newb and become a NOOB...

There is a common misconception that skilled players can make up for new players shortcomings in this game, thereby balancing a team. 2 competent players vs 1 skilled and 1 new player will win as the competent player will win against the newb quickly and the skilled won't be able to win as quick due to the competent player knowing how to slow them down until help arrives...