To all you Liberals please give some evidence!

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Why at the end of the Kerry campaign did Kerry decide to start telling flat out lies about the draft, which won't happen, he said anything to get elected and it didn't work??

BUSH 04!!!! You stupid liberals and democrats you say Bush is oil crazed well this may be news to you but SADDAM Hussein was an EVIL, EVIL, dictator that on MANY occasions threatened the US. YOU LIBERALS REMEMBER HIM?????? HUH??? IM LISTENING??? IF you liberals weren’t so peace happy you would understand this to. If JOHN KERRY would make such a good president then why is his picture hanging in the Vietnam memorial in Vietnam for helping them win the war. BY LAW THAT IS TREASON!! JOHN KERRY HAS HAD 16 DIFFERENT POSSITIONS ON THE WAR IN THE PAST 6 MONTHS!!!!!! Come on don't be the stupid ignorant people that the democrats want you to be!!!
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Reply #3 from PolMach Forums Top
let me just say this: Saddam Hussein was a bad man. nobody is dening that. so, u want to get rid of all the bad men? u want to invade North Korea and depose Kim-Jung-Il? Do u want to invade Iran and get rid of their rulers? do u want to invade China and get rid of their dictatorship? do u want to launch an assault on Cuba and get rid of Fidel Castro? do u want our military to run around, getting rid of all the bad men and making sure every country is a democracy? theyre all bad men like Saddam, so should we go after them till the population is devastated?
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
Hmmm... What was that about lefties being the only elitist snobs?
Reply #5 from PolMach Forums Top
What I want to do is invade any country that harpors terrorists that have made it clear that they want to hurt and kill Americans. Saddam Houssine threated America so we responded with justice.
Reply #7 from PolMach Forums Top
would somebody answer my question or all you going to divert to your own talking points?
Reply #8 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #7 By: Evan Trivett - 11/5/2004 11:05:17 PM
would somebody answer my question or all you going to divert to your own talking points?


I'm on your side. I don't need to answer the question.
Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

Click here please.


(ive got tears in my eyes and my lenses are foggin up)

Reply #10 from PolMach Forums Top
i answered ur question about Saddam, so dont tell me no ones answered u. and the Click Here makes me glad i live in New Jersey where they still have a chance
NJ Forever (not a reference to my username)
Reply #11 from PolMach Forums Top
incorrect again Citizen NJforever you gave a bounch of exucuses that does not face the facts.
Reply #12 from PolMach Forums Top
SADDAM Hussein was an EVIL, EVIL, dictator that on MANY occasions threatened the US


and i contended that we cant go after every dictator that happens not to like us. More and more Canadians and Europeans think we have an evil empire, should we invade them? HUH???????? Im facing the facts im facing that Saddam Hussein was a bad man but i am also revealing the also true fact that we cant depose everybody who does bad things! Were not the police of the world, so stop thinking we r!
Reply #13 from PolMach Forums Top
How can you say that Saddam Houssien happend to just "Not like Us" ?? he threatend us. HELLO???? If we were not fighting the war now in forty years they would be over here fighting our granchildren. "More and more Canadians and Europeans think we have an evil empire" that may be true but the LEADERS of those places are not threatening the United States and happen to be our allies.
Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top
Citizen NJforever, do you want America to just go hide in a corner and let the world rot to peices? Is that what you want? Do you think we ill attain World Peace that way? WOrld PEACE IS impossible. you cann't please everybody so every nation is not going to agree on everything. so stop complaining that we should have peace.
Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top
Get over it, the election is over.
Time to move on. <---Not a pun
Reply #16 from PolMach Forums Top
I am not saying we should hide in a corner im saying we cant go meddling everywhere. i supported the first Gulf war and the war on Afghanistan, thank u very much. Korea and Vietnam sprouted from fear of communism and were completely unnecessary, and Iraq barely has grounds for war itself. I wish for world peace, but im realistic, i know we will get nuked before that happens. and Bush barely tried to prevent war. if u had Bush in front of u right now, and u asked him to look u in the eye and tell u he did everything in his power to prevent war, he couldnt, because he DIDNT!! we should get involved where its necessary but we cant police the world. policing the world created North Korea as it is today. is that what u want?
Reply #17 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #16 By: NJforever - 11/5/2004 11:50:32 PM
if u had Bush in front of u right now, and u asked him to look u in the eye and tell u he did everything in his power to prevent war, he couldnt, because he DIDNT!! we should get involved where its necessary but we cant police the world. policing the world created North Korea as it is today. is that what u want?


And you know this to be fact, how???
Reply #18 from PolMach Forums Top
In my opinoin, (and that's just me, a dumb liberal), the military might of the United States can be better used for peaceful purposes, such as stopping the genocide in Sudan. There is no question that Saddam was a bad man, and yes, I'm happy that he's gone. But Bush needs to get his story straight. Iraq was invaded because of WMDs, but there were none. Then Iraq was invaded because Saddam had ties to Al-Qaeda, but he didn't. So Iraq was invaded to liberate the Iraqi people and free them from Saddam’s evil clutches, but the Administration does nothing about an ongoing genocide in which many Sudanese have been slaughtered by government funded militias. So Iraq was invaded because Saddam Hussein may have possibly in the distant future been able to possibly begin programs to research and produce weapons of mass destruction. What? Any country has the possibility to eventually produce WMDs, but Saddam was not actively planning to produce WMDs, unlike Iran and North Korea. And after going through all these reasons he calls John Kerry a flip-flopper. So we now come down to the final reason in answer to the question of “Why was Iraq invaded?” It is (drum roll please) “we are seeking out terrorists where they live and fighting them there, so we don’t have to wait to engage them on our soil.”

1. America already had a front from which to fight terror suspects, in Afghanistan. And with cooperation of and diplomacy with other nearby countries such as Pakistan and Turkey, the military could be able to coordinate efforts to fight terror throughout the region from a “base” in a liberated Afghanistan.

2. The invasion has seemed to cause more terrorism and create more terrorists than it stopped. It is no secret that with Bush’s unilateral actions, Abu Ghraib, casualties caused by American bombing, and war on a Muslim country, that Islamic terrorist organizations have had incredible recruitment recently, causing more terrorist attacks in Iraq and worldwide.

3. Since terrorist attack are difficult to stop without excellent intelligence, basically what Bush’s strategy seems to be doing so far is place American troops and Iraqi security forces in the line of fire. By enraging the Iraqi population, and not being able to prevent these attacks without mass arrests and harsh interrogations, which further enrage the population, basically what this has amounted to is painting a bulls-eye on every Western citizen and member of the Iraqi security forces, and allowing them to be kidnapped or attacked by suicide bombers instead of having the suicide bombers and terrorists plan to attack or blow themselves up on American soil. By recklessly playing with American and Iraqi lives like that, he doesn’t deserve to be President. President Bush’s policies have led to more loss of life than any President since Richard Nixon.

The military might of the United States can be much better used to prevent genocide and human rights abuses around the world, such as Sudan, instead of being bogged down in Iraq, where civilian casualties are as high as 100,000 deaths. Using military force to prevent genocide and abuses of basic human rights through peacekeeping. Lester B. Pearson won a Nobel Peace Prize for that idea. But I'm just a dumb ignorant liberal, with my crazy ideas.
Reply #19 from PolMach Forums Top
oh please. u cant honestly tell me he did everything. apparently not good enough to approve war, he let the UN try to talk Hussein into letting inspectors in. u want to know a fact? Bush considered going to war with Iraq RIGHT AFTER 9/11. does that sound like a man who was comitted to peace? andu say the war isnt oil-crazy. u know, when Baghdad was sacked, the only thing the soldiers were told to protect were the Oil ministries. everything else, let the Iraqis go ahead and tear them apart, but protect the oil! and with North Korea, we were unhappy about Korea being communist so through the UN, we separated them into North and South Korea, and when the inevitable war came, we fought them, tried to make them under South Korean control, and theyve hated us since, despite our failure to do so.anyway, im going to sleep, so any reply u post will not be responded to now. i state a gain: i realize world peace is an impossibility, though i wish for it, and i wont be surprised at all when i see World War III
Reply #20 from PolMach Forums Top
Bush considered going to war with Iraq RIGHT AFTER 9/11


Actually, I heard a quote that Rumsfeld said right after 9/11 (I might not have his exact words here, I'm doing this from memory): "Lets bomb Iraq, there are no good targets in Afghanistan"
Reply #21 from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #19 By: NJforever - 11/6/2004 12:09:51 AM
oh please. u cant honestly tell me he did everything. apparently not good enough to approve war, he let the UN try to talk Hussein into letting inspectors in. u want to know a fact? Bush considered going to war with Iraq RIGHT AFTER 9/11


Were you there? Do you know (can you prove) that this is fact?
Reply #22 from PolMach Forums Top
If JOHN KERRY would make such a good president then why is his picture hanging in the Vietnam memorial in Vietnam for helping them win the war. By law that is treason. If you liberals still think Iraq was a mistake lets look at history. In WW2 Japan attacked Peral Harbor. Sound familar, (9/11?,Afaganistan?) We, the United States, declared war on Japan AND on Germany, even though Germany had not attacked us in no way whatsoever, (kinda like Iraq) Now there was a LOT of casulties to remove an evil dictator, Adolph Hitler. Those choices to attack Geramny and JAPAN turned out to be right. So you can say we are "policing the World" but in fact were not policing anybody unless their terrorists, a country that harpors terrorists, or a nation that has threatened the USA.
Reply #23 from JoeUser Forums Top
Bush should stop waging wars in which the physical reward is less in value then the price.

"States, declared war on Japan AND on Germany,"

WRONG!!! After we declared war on JAPAN(not on Germany), Germany decided to declare war on the US!

"Vietnam memorial in Vietnam for helping them win the war. "

Because that is how they view it. USA doesn't view it like that. The majority of Americans never viewed him as helping the Viatnamese until the shouting match over Vietnam in the election began.

"Now there was a LOT of casulties to remove an evil dictator, Adolph Hitler."

Yes but you see Adolph Hitler threatened world peace and wanted to dominate the world by attacking France not because he was a dictator and was running amuck in his country.

"a nation that has threatened the USA."

When exactly did Saddam say " I am going to hurt those God Damn Americans" Again???
Reply #24 from PolMach Forums Top
Because that is how they view it. USA doesn't view it like that. The majority of Americans never viewed him as helping the Viatnamese until the shouting match over Vietnam in the election began.

Thats because NOBODY KNEW ABOUT IT!!! And how exactly are we supposed to view that???? Saddam WAS running "amuck" in his country.
Reply #25 from JoeUser Forums Top
Reply #23 By: DPS - 11/6/2004 11:05:25 AM
"a nation that has threatened the USA."

When exactly did Saddam say " I am going to hurt those God Damn Americans" Again???


Maybe you should read this *before* you go spouting off at the mouth.
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