The Bonfire of the BC's

Near the end, they want about ~6,000,000BC per planet.  Sometimes they'll ask for as much as 10-11 rather than 6.

I ignore the penalty, for the most part.  It does hurt your score somewhat, but it's not as huge of a penalty as everyone thinks it is-it's only 20%, and applied as a racial penalty.  So if you for instance have +300% econ from techs and resources (not outside of the realm of possibility, particularly in TA), you're only getting +280% out of it.  This results in you having 95% of the gross income you would otherwise have, and due to the fact that everything in the game gives you less and less score as you increase the value thereof (see in particular Mumble's infinite posts about how 2x military rating does not give as much military score as x military rating, same applies for economy, etc), it is not a farfetched idea to imagine that in this kind of scenario your economy score would only be approximately 5% less as well, although I doubt anyone has specifically run the numbers.

The aside to that of course is that if you have that much cash on hand and are not spending it, the player in the same situation who is spending it is getting something scorewise in return for their investment-but this doesn't necessarily mean you need to spend below the threshold, as this would be true comparing even someone who spent down to 30000BC every turn and someone who just let the cash roll in every turn.

But if you're a true scoremonger, you'll want every point you can get.

Considering late game ships can get up to ~4000BC which is ~55000BC rush buy cost, you should almost certainly be able to spend yourself under the penalty threshold each and every week.

Oh, I can definitely spend myself under the threshold every week. I've got a gussied up uber-dreadnought I'm building on several industrailized planets I can force buy every week. It's just gotten to that point of the game where I control everything, the AI is down to a few planets, and what once was fun has become a chore as I have to buy ships every round....I guess this is why you like the colony rush so much, Sole Soul? I agree with you...the race in the beginning to grab the best position is the best part of the game. The mid-game is fun too if it throws some surprises at you, but the end game, when you are just mopping up, begins to seem like......work?

Indeed. 

I agree.

Although at mid-game I manage to bring in 2 Million BC's at the least.

At least at that time I can spend it on social projects, starbases and ships.

And because I don't play for the score (I play for fun), the penalty doesn't really phase me all that much.

Whoa! How do you bring in 2 million BC's? When I play huge universes, control 349 out 0f 350 planets, have population maxed out at 15 to 16 per planet, have the tax rate at 79%, and have every conceivable tile covered with a stock market I think I am still only at about 350,000 BC's a turn. What's the secret?

Gigantic, all-abundant?

Hi!

IMO it's time to end your game. Dragging it for points obviously isn't fun, so move along at harder difficulty.

BR,  Iztok

Good insight and normally good advice, but I am already at suicidal, and I was trying to emulate Mumblefratz's game where he plays to make the highest score possible. I did decide that playing that way was just to grueling in the end.

This is why I don't play the Metaverse anymore. You find yourself doing things just to maximize your score and play a game well past the point at which you won.

I find myself sadly agreeing.

It does get rather trivial at times grinding out scores. Which is why i have submitted so few mumblers. ZYW's are the other end of the scale and can be just as tedious.

I played out a TA game the other day for only 120K and had a blast.

Back to a mumbler now though. Looking to break 1M if i can.

I take it back, grinding out a score can be very rewarding!  <cheesy grin> Yes, it was a lot of work, but I just doubled my previous best score and darn it, I just feel good about it. <cheesy grin again> I didn't break the 1M mark, but I got close enough that I think it is doable on my next game. We shall see.

BTW, since I initiated this post I've learned a lot. IMO, all the extra bc's should be used to buy ships on Mitrosoft leases. Also, I got to 1.2 million bc's per turn on a gigantic universe with all planets maxed with stock markets during an economic boom. Ergo, I imagine that on an immense universe 2 million bc's would be doable. If Extant Faora knows someting I don't though, I would love to hear it! 

Neilo, you and I have to do 1M+ mumblers together.....on your mark, get set, go!

I dont think the amount of planets changes from giga to immense. Not like the good ole days of 800+ planets in a giga....

And as far as 2mill per turn...well...i think i said it before somewhere but i dont believe it to be possible in a MV game. Show me a screenie and prove it's a MV game and i will eat my words. Of the all the guys to break 700K that i have spoke to 1.2-1.6M per turn has been about the norm.

AFAIK not Mumble or Mag or even Purge ever got 2M per turn.

Neilo, you and I have to do 1M+ mumblers together.....on your mark, get set, go!

I am at May 1 of year 1 with all the AI gone except the Korx who are in slot one. The AI did a ballsed up job of colonizing though so there is plenty of work to be done there. I'll chat more about it in the Throne Room.

Looking good though...

See you in the throne room!

I rule a peaceful galaxy (I bribe everyone into ceasefires).

99% of my planets are all-econ.

I don't have any military ships or for that matter, I barely have any starbases.

And I don't give a rat's ass about morale (as long as it is at an overall 45%, any more is good, but for me, it's rare).

And that's just in a nutshell.