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Can I mod these bad boys to stay without dissappearing after so many turns? It would be cool if they stayed for the life of the game. DS9 anyone?
I have the orginal game and both expansions. You're ship enters them and it warps you to various parts of the map.
He probably means the black hole anomaly when the ship is teleported into a different quadrant in the game.
Worm hole, not black hole. And no, they're hard-coded to be one use only. Not only that, but if you reload and use it again, it will send you somewhere different; the exit is random.
It's a ###ing hole and it's black, what do you want me from me? 
Erm...I mean...thanks for the answer on WORMholes.
If the background is black, and the ###ing hole is black - how do you see it?
Because if you zoom in, it has a color. It is blue, and it even looks like a worm hole. In fact, it is even labeled as such.
It is a worm hole, not a black hole.
In case you are really that ignorant - a worm hole can transport you somewhere, while a black hole will crush you flatter than flat.
Does (or did) your school teach science? Ever take a physics course?
erm... physics still can't explain either phenomina.
Black holes are a mystery, they have been proven to exist but as for a physical reason why they exist and why the can even consume light is unexplainable. So science left the matter as a mystery of nature and only a few teachers bother to teach it. A few black holes have been sited but none anywhere near the sol system. they arn't all black either just so you know.
Wormholes are only theory work. science isn't sure they even exist. 'Why teach myth in a science class' is there excuse. Wormholes have not been sited, so every book, game or movie you have seen with a wormhole is pure gues work to what they look like, but the preferred look is a funnel in space.
sorry to burst your warp bubbles you 2 but science has a smart arse answer for everything these days.
Where did you come up with THAT idea!? The whole POINT of a black hole is that its gravity is so powerful that not even light can escape the field. That's why it looks BLACK! (Yes, I KNOW they are not really black! They emit very slight gamma radiation!) So there IS an explanation.
Wormholes (one word, by the way) ARE purely theoretical, and my limited knowledge of physics does not include the theory, but there definately IS a theory. And no, the GC2 version is NOT black. A little knowledge really is a dangerous thing...
Woah, wait guys to where have you taken this?
He was simply asking if wormholes in the game can stay for the whole game. CapnWiky, the answer is no, they can't stay the whole game, maybe an option to disable them or enable them forever will be in later versions of GalCiv2 or even GalCiv3.
Now for the rest, the game's wormholes are all but realistic, they are simply there to create a symbol to represent a force sucking you in and pushing you out in a different location on the map. Realism was definitely*NOT* taken into account here. 
I appreciate that, Master U. That's all I was looking for. Thanks!
Black holes aren't quite the 'mysterious unknown' as many might think. They do know how they are created, they know pretty much what they do, the only thing that is unknown and probably will be unknown forever is the exact physics of the inside of the black hole at the singularity (or even anything inside the event horizon), since any information that enters the event horizon is forever lost and cannot be studied (of course there are some theories that say it is possible in some situations). Just read up on it in wiki. Quite interesting.
I have also seen computer-generated images in science publications of what a wormhole WOULD look like on its own: there is a spherical warp or bulge with an image of whatever is on the other end in the middle. In space, it would be almost invisble unless it connected two areas that looked radically different, or had gas or something else spiralling into it. If it did, it would probably look like an orange-yellow-white version of the GC2 anomaly.
lol, someone's been doing their homework. My personaly opinion is that even if they do exist we'd have a bigger mystery on our hands. a wormhole sucks you into a funnel right. well maybe there is such thing as subspace. coz otherwise you'd be getting sucked into normal space which would eliminate the possibility of a wormhole and the cutting down of distance.
Yeah, I've always been fascinated by astrophysics. Most of the quantum stuff is a bit over my head, but I still like to read about it. I for one am a big disciple of the many-worlds theory... but you don't rerally want to listen to me drone on about parallel universes. Suffice it to say that in my mind, space would need to be curved or spherical for wormholes to exist, and the fact that no-one has seen them may be proof that space is actually the flat plane we've all seen in textbooks.
If Einstein was in fact wrong about a few details in the Relativity **theory**, one might even guess that the whole argument for a wormhole to actually exist and possibly behave in a certain way (hypothesis, x & y) can only be based on accurate evidence or proper demonstration.
There IS such a proof already in the Universe - it's called a SuperNova event.
Nearly at the end of the process (we're talkin' nanoseconds here), the activity creates an indirect WormHole situation that even a ship going beyond LS wouldn't have time enough to enter, detect, analyse and survive the exiting 'push' backward IN time ---or--- space. And yet, the entire concept can be reverted to a BlackHoling situation, except that the consequences leads Forward OUT of time ---and--- space.
In either case, the stupendous amount of energy (focal & sustained to an extremely precise limit) necessary to produce such stuff *artificially* makes it very unlikely that the human conscience can grab any results within a lifetime.
Trust nature, it is the only source for both and none of it is rationally long enough to BE catched by our senses - that is IF we were to be near damn close or be able to step inside the phenomenon(s), while creating conditions giving immunity to implosion & vice-versa, and eventually, go fast enough to escape anything alive to tell about *it*.
But in a GC2 game, reality is a different story. Randomized or not.
Wow, somebody who knows more about physics than I do. But what if, hypothetically, you were able to send a particle (or, better yet, a group of them) into the hole that was entangled to another particle/group you kept outside. You would be able to gather some data based on what happened to the particle(s). Granted, the temporal wierdness might make you wait a bit or get the data BEFORE you sent the "probe" in, but you would get it...
That's what negative energy is for. If you could collect enough from interstellar space and transport it somehow into the hole, it would stabilize it, long enough to get some info. Of course, you would have to be RIGHT there, and who wants to sit in the middle of a supernova with a box full of quintessence anyway...
Yes, from what I've read, since gravity is what curves and warps space and time, the Black Hole in essence would need to be the basis of what would form a wormhole. There is a theory what is called a White Hole, which would be the other side of the Black Hole... but obviously has no data to back it up. The only other thing that could cause such a phenomenon would be Dark Matter, but given there is no direct observational data regarding this yet, it is still all guesses.
According to scientists, these somewhat explain how black holes may 'release information and not suck it all in' (to put it in a non-scientific manner). And the latter is a theory saying information entering a black hole may be destroyed (which apparently violates the laws of physics, although a Black Hole singularity is hardly understood). In my mind, the 'information' may be destroyed, because Black Hole singularities have Zero Volume. Of course, since singularity literally means it is 'infinite space-time curvature', a Zero Volume for all that mass makes sense. Who knows though, you can't think 'within the box' when attempting to understand something as such.
Blackholes are a mystery. it is just one of those things science cannot explain, yet.
But if you think about it a wormhole and blackhole work of the same principle. they suck things in, only that wormholes have 2 ends instead of one. that doesn't rule out the possibility that a wormhole hole also crushes anything it sucks in and spit it out the other end as interstellar dust. A black hole would use those atoms to expand but a wormhole would loose them out the other end so it could never expand.
If wormholes don't exist how do you explain all the times Picard and the Enterprise went through one? I saw it with my onw eyes.
Actually, considering what I have read, today's telescopes and instruments would probably be unable to even detect a wormhole, and even if they did, it would probably be mistaken for a regular old black hole. In fact, ALL black holes may actually be wormholes, we just don't know it yet. Of course, then there's the problem of where all the WHITE holes are... but maybe we can't detect THEM, either!
HAHAHA! I've also seen one, a real one.. Janeway and crew of Voyager went through one as well!
I volunteer you to be the first to test it out then! 
Want some cloaked ships?
From a Mod folder only -- Create a new fake named (Large?!) Hull model simply by copying any single one of the defaults as an S99_structure type, shipyard (starting off with a KHSM Blank Hull) whatever you want on it, save the SpyShip, exit the game...
Go back to the mod folder which had that S99 structure in the GFX/Models... delete the file.
Start a new game. 
Build your all new entirely Invisible ship (since it is now in C:/Doc... as an xml/cfg combo S0-1-2-xx reserved ship, but without a valid mesh to base it on) - to you, to them Ais and...
-- if you dare, give that power house of undetectable moving "weird item" to any AIs pool of ships as template.
You certainly can't see what isn't there and neither do i. Sometimes though, there's something flying by the Nebulas! Catch it while it stand.
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