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Fox calls Ohio for Bush!

It's over...

November 3, 2004 12:47:21 AM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

FoxNews has just called Ohio to Bush.

That essentially means it's over. Bush has won.

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Reply #1 November 3, 2004 12:50:30 AM
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I'm betting New Mexico goes Red to seal the deal. Looks like a lot of unhappy lawyers are all dressed up with nowhere to go.

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Reply #2 November 3, 2004 12:51:32 AM
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Nice news youve got here Brad! Whew, that was a close call. Now maybe Kerry can fade away... please?

PLEASE?

PLEASE??? OMG, CAN WE GET RID OF THIS LOSER????
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Reply #3 November 3, 2004 1:00:38 AM
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I can see Kerry conceding, returning to the Senate as the most powerful Democrat, and then running again in 4 years against a non-incumbent Republican candidate.
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Reply #4 November 3, 2004 1:03:34 AM
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Over Billary's dead bodies.

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Reply #5 November 3, 2004 1:06:33 AM
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I feel a bit evil but I'm watching the mutants at DU.org freak out.
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Reply #6 November 3, 2004 1:07:33 AM
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Isn't it a bit early to assume Bush already won Ohio, since there's still around 15% left to report.

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Reply #7 November 3, 2004 1:10:34 AM
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I can see Kerry conceding, returning to the Senate as the most powerful Democrat, and then running again in 4 years against a non-incumbent Republican candidate.

If the Democrats want to lose again, then he'll be the candidate. Hell, how much of a chance will he have against Bush's successor if he couldn't even beat the infamous Bush?

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Reply #8 November 3, 2004 1:12:03 AM
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Messy -

There just aren't enough uncounted votes left. Kerry would have to get 75% or more of the remaining votes just to make up the difference and get close and that just ain't gonna happen.

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Reply #9 November 3, 2004 1:14:14 AM
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, there are people at Dem undground saying that they all voted absentee to avoid "fixed" voting machines. I guess Kerry is gonna actually lose, BEFORE he wins...

I think it is damned telling that libs are up in arms and unable to understand how bush is getting so many votes. You ignore fly-over America, and that is what you get. When everyone in your support group for the terminally outraged supports Kerry, I guess you assume everyone is like you...

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Reply #10 November 3, 2004 1:20:41 AM
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I feel a bit evil but I'm watching the mutants at DU.org freak out.


My goodness, they seem to think that because the exit polls failed to hold up in "just" Florida & Ohio that the "fix is in" and that there's something fishy going on there. Talk about desperate paranoia. Since when have exit polls been the standard against which vote-counts were judged? Do they really think a court challenge based on the discrepancy between exit polls and the actual vote tally has a freakin' prayer? But then, why should I be surprised. Some just won't or can't accept reality.

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Reply #11 November 3, 2004 1:23:56 AM
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I'm glad to see that Bush is going to win this election. Now I just hope that Daschle gets dumped.
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Reply #12 November 3, 2004 1:33:08 AM
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New Mexico is about ready to be called for Bush. Iowa just tilted his way also and he srill has a shot in Wisconsin. In Nevada it depends on how much of the South/Vegas they've counted, everywhere but Vegas is basically Red.
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Reply #13 November 3, 2004 1:33:09 AM
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Well, President Bush is back. Shit for the rest of the world, I think, but perhaps time will prove me wrong. At least I hope that's so.

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Reply #14 November 3, 2004 1:35:44 AM
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This is a bit off-topic, but not really... Does anybody know in what kind of places sell those Bush / Cheney t-shirts? I saw some people at the gym with them but I didn't ask them, and if they're still selling them, I'm going to buy one and wear it!
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Reply #15 November 3, 2004 1:40:21 AM
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I'm glad to see that Bush is going to win this election. Now I just hope that Daschle gets dumped.


Looks like Daschle may go. Even with 90% of the remaining reservation votes going his way, it doesn't look like enough to overcome Thune's current margin.

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Reply #16 November 3, 2004 1:54:17 AM
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Kerry just needs to concede. Don't drag the lawyers into this again.
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Reply #17 November 3, 2004 1:57:32 AM
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Sad sad sad
4 years of stupidity to come.
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Reply #18 November 3, 2004 1:59:44 AM
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Reply #16 By: Citizen Island Dog - 11/3/2004 1:54:17 AM
Kerry just needs to concede. Don't drag the lawyers into this again.


It may be their very last act before tort reform smacks them hard in the face. (At least I hope so).

On the big plus side: John Edwards is gone from the senate, replaced by a repub, and now likely is going to be living a life in early retirement. Great for us, bad for him.

Kerry will continue in the senate. Hell, he could very easily find himself running for senate minority leader if Dashcle is really booted. That'd be a good place for him.
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Reply #19 November 3, 2004 2:04:39 AM
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So Bush is reelected. We now can hope for no more international support.


This is the same President that drove away all of the allies that stood beside us in Afganistan, who brought us into a war that the UN has declared illegal, and that has every European country hating us again (even the UK, as Tony Blair is NEVER going to be reelected even by his own party.


It is true that we should never be governed by a international body, and that we must act with these United States in mind. Alienating the rest of the world does NOT help the United States by any stretch of the imagination. We have effectively damned ourself. President Bush put it best when he said, "You are either with us, or against us." Well, Mr. President, apparently we have alot of enemies.


If you are an American, I can only ask you to stand behind our country. Not because you want to, but because no one else will.
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Reply #20 November 3, 2004 2:07:50 AM
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"So Bush is reelected. We now can hope for no more international support."


You weren't gonna get a damn bit more "International Support" with Kerry, unless he BOUGHT it. Our international problems have been brewing for decades and they are trade based and only veneered with Iraq and the rest of this nonsense. Hell, Iraq was an economic interest issue with France and the rest, not some moral, diplomatic problem.

Kerry would have had to sell us completely down the river to gain that kind of approval, and frankly not even he is that big of a weasel.

This is the same President that drove away all of the allies that stood beside us in Afganistan


go back and look at the numbers involved with those who "stood beside us". I appreciate the sacrifices they made, but in the end they were symbolic. THat is how it always works. The US makes a substantial effort, and the others make a symbolic gesture and try to minimize their worry with it.

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Reply #21 November 3, 2004 2:16:28 AM
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I can see Kerry conceding, returning to the Senate as the most powerful Democrat, and then running again in 4 years against a non-incumbent Republican candidate.


So he can be defeated again no one will elect him he will be defeated again ! If by chance this would happen to occur.
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Reply #22 November 3, 2004 2:22:28 AM
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Hell, he could very easily find himself running for senate minority leader if Dashcle is really booted


Nope, that will be Reid.
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Reply #23 November 3, 2004 2:23:12 AM
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As has been said, Hillary only promised to not to quit in her first Senate term. I think all bets are off in 2008.
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Reply #24 November 3, 2004 2:27:45 AM
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What are they waiting for on New Mexico? Bush is ahead by more votes than are left to report.
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Reply #25 November 3, 2004 3:52:42 AM
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go back and look at the numbers involved with those who "stood beside us". I appreciate the sacrifices they made, but in the end they were symbolic. THat is how it always works. The US makes a substantial effort, and the others make a symbolic gesture and try to minimize their worry with it.


Yeah right. We contribute with what we can. As it is, we Danes have around 25% of our standing forces tied up in international efforts, including Iraq and Afghanistan. Excuse us for not sending out 200,000 troops out of a population of only 5.5 million.

Damn, but it angers me when uninformed people make uninformed statements.

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