Decision 2004: And now we wait...

Who will win?

Everyone hopes that their game will win. But right now, no one knows. Exit polls won't be useful in any remotely close states until the end of the day (beware of anyone trying to toss around any exit polls in battle ground states until the end of the day - whether they be for Bush or Kerry).

We'll keep this blog running throughout the day and see how things go.

5pm EST: Only a couple hours left until the polls close in a few states. At that point, we'll be able to start looking and seeing the results. Even in states that are solid Bush or Kerry, we can compare the results with the various polls on-line to see how close they are. If a solid Bush state leans Kerry or a solid Kerry state leans Bush, we may get an early idea of what is going to be the result.

8pm EST: Projected final result: Kerry victory by 3% (51% to 48%) nationally (from looking at a ton of exit polls). Let's see how close they are.

9pm EST: Not a land slide that's for sure.  Bush has taken Bush states and Kerry has taken Kerry states. Florida and Ohio are still unknown. Feeling a little bit better about Bush as it appears exit polling may not be quite as on as originally expected and absentee ballots going more heavily in favor of Bush. Stay tuned...

10pm EST: Looking at the various states ACTUAL vote the news for Bush is pretty good. I'm not going to talk about states that only have partial returns in (like Florida). Let's go with a state that has 100% in: Kentucky

2000: Bush:57% Gore: 41%
2004: Bush: 60% Kerry: 40%

So in Kentucky, a Bush state, he gained over 2000. If nationally Bush bumped himself up by this amount then that's good.  The same is true in Virginia.  From a statistical analysis point of view this is good news for Bush. But still way too early.

I remember back in 2000 when they predicted Florida for Gore how mad I was because they had something like 60% of vote in and Bush had a 200,000 vote lead. Same is happening this time. So don't get too excited that Bush has a lead in Florida early on because it'll tighten up.

11pm EST: At some point they're going to have to call Florida for Bush at this rate. Which will be the first error in The Political Machine projection. It's got 93% in and Bush has a 5 point lead. Barring a miracle, it's going to be hard for Kery to come back.

Bush already has 400,000 more votes in 2004 than he got total in 2000 in Florida.

Midnight: Looks like Florida is going for Bush. Ohio is very close.  So my personal prediction is wrong (yay!).

But the official PoliticalMachine.com prediction is still alive:

https://www.politicalmachine.com/forums.asp?cmd=ShowComments&MID=122&CMID=122&AID=31475

Hoping it's wrong too!

12:15am: Ohio Ohio Ohio. It's all up to Ohio. If Bush gets Ohio, it's over. It's 51% to 49%. It's very close. I'm looking at it county by county and there's only one really big Democratic county left there and Kerry will pick up a net 40,000 vote advantage once that gets in. But that will still leave Bush with a 75,000 vote advantage and there's other Republican votes coming in.

And Absentee ballots tend to favor Republicans traditionally. So if Kerry can't get it under 40,000 soon, it's all over.

12:40am: For those who wanted to see what PoliticalMachine.com had predicted back on October 15th for the race:

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Whoa!  Time warp!  I got this 5 minutes to 5pm!  And the 5pm update is already here!

Beam me up Scotty!

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Oh the waiting before the storm is the worst part!!

...Nevermind...the storm IS WORST!!

WHOOSH Plinko!!
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(beware of anyone trying to toss around any exit polls in battle ground states until the end of the day - whether they be for Bush or Kerry).


I hope you are right. I've seen some posted on msn already.
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It was fun debateing you all for the last month or so. I hope this fine little community doesn't desolve after the votes are counted.
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It was fun debateing you all for the last month or so. I hope this fine little community doesn't desolve after the votes are counted.


It HAS been fun being a part of the JU community during this election. I feel like the posters here have made me more informed, and they've certainly made me laugh a time or two. I've even changed my mind on some issues -- raising the minimum wage and being anti-Halliburton for two major ones. I don't think there's any way JU will "dissolve" after the votes are in, no matter who wins. The blogosphere has proven to be a vital part of the various media, and that can only be good.

Good luck to you all!

Mikey
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Heh, I hope it's a tie and we keep at this for another year. It is very possible Cheney could end up as President.
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I like Cheney more than Bush (and certainly more than Edwards). Might not be too bad.
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I hope certain left will be president, but I also hope there won't be flying crap this election.

Any good site to show current results of the votes?
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All the jousting here at JU has indeed been enjoyable & educational these past couple of months. Thanks to all who have made it so, even blogic.

The issues raised here won't go away as of tonight. Hopefully, all will stay engaged.

Not a new joke, but: I really like Cheney, but I'm afraid something might happen to him & Bush would become President.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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The issues raised here won't go away as of tonight. Hopefully, all will stay engaged.


Oh...merciful God...please...no...
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It's been real....although I feel like the only Kerry Supporter on the site...
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It's been real....although I feel like the only Kerry Supporter on the site...


Have you seen this: Link

Plinko!!
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I hope that Kerry does for the sake of international sanity.
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Well I can say that the office went about 50/50 between the two. So I can say that Stardock does not lean either way.
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My first time voting (which was last year), I was excited because I finally voting. This year, I'm on pin and needles. I'm glued to the news. I hope it doesn't go to the Supreme Court this year.

Is it just me or did the election process seem to go on longer this year and with more intensity?
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Bush is going to have 4 more years ^_^ . I really think even those who needed to hobble out their door and travel from the the hills to their local church/school/fire house to the polls made sure they did so in this election. To ensure Kerry and MoveOn.org wouldn't hoodwink us into magical "plans" saving heh the world from the big bad Bush.
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Don't forget ***the vote when women are promising themselves to someone who would vote for Kerry. Tactics like this are sneaky and slimey. Yeah Poltiics! Brad was right with the Intimidators though they are all over the election with Republican onesi n Florida and Democratic ones in Ohio. Kerry was traveling around with his Hollywood Star Bruce Springstein this week too.
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Here is the map from PoliticalMachine.com.  My prediction, which missed Florida so far, was based on TPM and my reading of polls.

Here's the one based purely on TPM:

It should be noted that this was from October 15th.

 

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It's going to be the New Florida because Florida has so many votes for Bush now it's not being questioned. Thank you Brad for the update!
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Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay Does a Dance ^_^ WpppHoooo There is a G~D~!~