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The Power Of Competition

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The Power Of Competition

To many taxes kill Competition

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Here we are in another year 2009 came in with a whimper. We are being told that we are in the worse "recession" ever {read depression} since the 1930's. The President-Elect believes the government can spend our way out of this problem. He wants to have a "second stimulus bill " on his desk on January 20Th, so he can sign it. The purpose of a second stimulus package is to get the country spending again. The first one failed dismally since responsible citizens used the money they got to pay bills instead of going out and spending it for toys and getting into more debt.

There is in our history an American Statesman named Henry Clay who said " I would rather be right than to be President." It was Henry Clay who became known as "the great Pacifier" He much like our President-Elect thinks we can negotiate with our enemies. Because of his compromises of 1850, Clay attacked both Abolitionism and Slavery, Believing that they would expire naturally. Clays compromise alienated the anti-slavery states, and that ended any chance he might have had for the presidency.. Clay learned by sad experience to believe, in his older years, Of all human powers operating on the affairs of mankind, none is greater than competition. {socialism pretty much kill competition} So far unless we let Obama turn this great "land of the free home of the brave" into a socialistic European model country we still have competition. WE cannot let this die off just to please a few people, while the vast majority believe that this country is great because of capitalism, not some watered down form of communism.

If we the people remain silent I believe that a President Obama will turn America into a country we will not recognize anymore.

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Reply #26 from JoeUser Forums Top

No, because there's a different between copyright law and patents

Yes there is, but that does not change the fact that you have a monopoly over Ford Mustangs, not all cars.  It matters not if you use a spring, and I use a tensed rod.  My mousetrap is not your mousetrap.  ANd we both can sell them.

Reply #27 from Stardock Forums Top

Quoting Dr, reply 26
No, because there's a different between copyright law and patentsYes there is, but that does not change the fact that you have a monopoly over Ford Mustangs, not all cars.  It matters not if you use a spring, and I use a tensed rod.  My mousetrap is not your mousetrap.  ANd we both can sell them.

This is truth, both are mouse traps but not the same, both are equal in the fact they catch or kill mice, neither "inventor can sue the other because there is no infringement on the primary device.

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Reply #28 from JoeUser Forums Top

you have a monopoly over Ford Mustangs, not all cars

You have a monopoly over all (traditional) cars if you can patent the design for a car with broad enough parameters (e.g. motorised vehicle with wheels). Yes you could still try and make a sail powered car, or a plane, but it doesn't affect the fact that that person has a monopoly on cars.

You can have as narrow or as broad a patent example as you want, but whatever happens, the person with the patent has a monopoly over what's been patented. Other people can't compete by using the idea but not copying the product it's used in directly (although the specifics will depend on the terms of the patent). The alternatives are also likely to be more expensive, and in some cases significantly more expensive, which can then allow you to have an effective monopoly of an entire market until such time that the alternatives become more cost efficient.

Reply #29 from JoeUser Forums Top

You have a monopoly over all (traditional) cars if you can patent the design for a car with broad enough parameters (e.g. motorised vehicle with wheels). Yes you could still try and make a sail powered car, or a plane, but it doesn't affect the fact that that person has a monopoly on cars.

Even Ford did not get one.  You can try, but that does not mean you will suceed.  And even if you do temporarily, there is the rule of "obviousness" that will void any said patent.

Reply #30 from PolMach Forums Top

You can have as narrow or as broad a patent example as you want, but whatever happens, the person with the patent has a monopoly over what's been patented. Other people can't compete by using the idea but not copying the product it's used in directly (although the specifics will depend on the terms of the patent). The alternatives are also likely to be more expensive, and in some cases significantly more expensive, which can then allow you to have an effective monopoly of an entire market until such time that the alternatives become more cost efficient.

This is why they have patent clerks.  You can't necessarily get a patent just because you apply for one.  The patent office would not allow you to get control of an entire industry.

From dictionary.com:

pat-ent: [pat-nt or, for 10, 12–15, peyt-; especially Brit. peyt-nt] - noun

1. the exclusive right granted by a government to an inventor to manufacture, use, or sell an invention for a certain number of years.

2. an invention or process protected by this right.

So you can patent a specific invention (albeit that invention could be fairly generic the patent office would not allow you to patent an entire industry, ie even prior to the day of the automobile you couldn't patent the entire automobile, but you could patent the parts that went into making an automobile.)

Mo-nop-o-ly: [muh-nop-uh-lee] -noun, plural -lies

1. exclusive control of a commodity or service in a particular market, or a control that makes possible the manipulation of prices. Compare duopoly, oligopoly.

2. an exclusive privilege to carry on a business, traffic, or service, granted by a government.

And this is the key, being able to control exclusively a commodity or service in a particular market (ie making all mouse traps not just making a specific mouse trap) or control that allows you to manipulate prices.

There is a difference between the two.