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Brad's election prediction

Brad's election prediction

Kerry wins by a larger margin than anticipated

With the election tomorrow it's time for predictions. Based on using The Political Machine's issue based predictions and looking at polling data and trends, this is what I'm concluding:

Kerry victory with 306 electoral votes to Bush's 232.  This is a much clearer victory for Kerry than any of the polls and pundits are showing here. But then again, they don't have The Political Machine.

So what do I base this on?

  1. The Iraq war isn't a positive for Bush but in fact a negative.

  2. I think the Democrats are better at mobilizing their base. This has to do with demographics. It's easier to get people to the polls in urban areas than rural/subburban areas. As I explained to a neighbor, there's roughly 200 people in our neighborhood. It would take hours to pick us all up and take us to a precinct to vote. By contrast, there might be 500 voters in a single building in Cleveland.

  3. I think fraudulent voting is going to be a real issue. It's a lot tougher to challenge fraudulent voting than it is to try to preserve the sanctity of the system. It's disappointing to think that my vote might be counter-balanced by someone's cat or "Dick Tracy" but our sensational media has clearly decided that it's better to have 1000 fraudulent voters get through than to prevent a single legitimate voter from being turned away. I disagree. I think there should be a balance because a fraudulent voter is effectively taking away the voting rights of someone else by canceling out their vote.

  4. The "early voting" mechanism is going to be the big story this year. Early voting favors less committed voters which tends to favor Democrats.

  5. That ridiculous "missing explosives" story from last week that looks to have not had any reasonable basis in fact (latest news on that is that a US unit actually removed the explosives at the end of April). But the media ran on that for a full week which may have been enough to tilt the balance in Florida, New Hampshire, Ohio, Wisconsin and Iowa to go for Kerry.

But in the end, if Kerry wins, it will be that first Bush debate that caused Bush to lose. The momentum was in Bush's favor and he so blew that first debate that it shifted momentum that he has not been able to recover from.

So there's my prediction. Not nearly as close as the pundits are predicting.

That said - EVERY informed voter should go out and vote. So even if you're in a blue or red state, go and vote tomorrow. I think the good news out of this election would be that we may have record turn-out which I think would be fantastic regardless of who wins. 

You Republicans who are hoping Bush wins better do what you can to get your friends and neighbors and family out to vote. Because you can be assured that the NEA (teachers) and other unions and other organizations are way ahead of Bush and his allies in organizing get out to vote on election day drives.

This election is going to come down to a handful of votes. Particularly in Florida, Ohio, Wisconsin, and Minnesota.

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Reply #26 Top
I still hope that Bush wins, cause I'm not entirely fond of Kerry, and I'm most defently not fond of his Global Test, bleh.
Reply #27 Top
GR: I wonder what time they put up their prediction. I did mine first thing this morning. I just went over to that site and it says 298 to 231.
Reply #28 Top
GR: I wonder what time they put up their prediction. I did mine first thing this morning. I just went over to that site and it says 298 to 231.


That was their prediction when I went to the site and checked this morning at about 8:00 am ET.
Reply #29 Top
My guess is Bush 300-238.

I think Bush will get Florida easily and Ohio grudgingly. The feel in Wisconsin has me thinking Bush has the edge here too.
Reply #30 Top
I hope you're right.  I REALLY hope that I'm wrong.
Reply #31 Top

Reply #26 By: Ashkihyena - 11/1/2004 9:18:07 PM
I still hope that Bush wins, cause I'm not entirely fond of Kerry, and I'm most defently not fond of his Global Test, bleh


So your not Fonda-Kerry?

Reply #32 Top
So your not Fonda-Kerry?


drmiler made a funny!
Reply #33 Top
Based on using The Political Machine's issue based predictions


What were the settings on? Each time I've run Bush against Kerry, Bush wins with around 275 to 280 EV (though I'm not overly savvy with the AI yet).
Reply #34 Top
NEA (teachers) and other unions and other organizations are way ahead of Bush and his allies in organizing get out to vote on election day drives. Right on target: though retired, I am still an AFT member and voted last week.[no, not Nadir] Thanks for the honest contrarian information.
Reply #35 Top
I hate to criticize your game on your own site, but it's got to be nearing the end of it's sales cycle anyway. My first game, I played as Bush and easily took California, New York and Massachusetts. This is politically impossible. Maybe I didn't set the game up right, but states need to have a lot more political inertia than that for this to even approach a realistic simulation.
Reply #36 Top
Hope you're right Draginol. Personally I'd like to see what John Kerry does with Iraq (if he wins). Noone can have ****** that up more than Dubya. Can Kerry offer a better compromise. It's like a guy going into a trashed candy store. Do you pick up all the broken candy or turn your back on it? I'm hoping Kerry has a better solution.
Reply #37 Top

Pinbot: That depends on the difficulty level. I doubt you took those states on the harder levels.

Reply #39 Top
True, I guess I shouldn't have assumed the difficulty level applied mainly to the AI skill. But on easier levels, can't the AI also exploit the fickle state loyalty to party?
Reply #40 Top
So far, The Political Machine has held true in it's predictions.

7:42

What a nailbiter of an election...
Reply #41 Top
I'll confess that I never played Political Machine, but so far it's interesting how the states are coinciding. On a side note, I stopped in the CompUSA in San Jose after the trip to the INS with my wife and I saw the game right there on the shelf! It was really cool to see the Stardock insignia on the box. CompUSA had it rated their #11 game.
Reply #42 Top
If the current trend holds. Bush wins with 275 to 285 EV.
Reply #43 Top

It's going to be close.

Ohio, Florida, Iowa, and Wisconsin (to name 4) could go either way. And since it's a gmae and you get into AI issues and all sorts of things it's really tough.

Reply #44 Top
10:45 and TPM hasn't missed a state yet. Of course, the pivotal states haven't announced any worthwhile numbers yet - but the CNN map thus far looks just like the TPM one. Did you guys run election results from years past through the game while building it? It would be interesting to see, given historical data, if the game would conclude prior election results in line with history.
Reply #45 Top
Ohio Bush is up by 6% (36% reporting)
Florida Bush is up by 5% (88% reporting)
Michigan Bush is up by 9% (13% reporting)
Wisconsin Bush is up by 13% ((18% reporting)
Iowa Bush up by 3% (35% reporting)
Reply #46 Top
I suspect Dragol invented a time machine. It's so close it's spooky.
Reply #47 Top
Michigan swings Kerry (up by 9%, 29% reporting) they must have started counting Detroit
Reply #48 Top
Hmmm...looks like Florida has stayed in the President's column. The Senator pretty much needs Ohio in order to win now.
Reply #49 Top
Now all Bush needs to do is win Ohio (now quite likely I think) and 16 other electoral votes to win. What will I do with my freetime now this message board will die now .
Reply #50 Top
I expected the race to be tight. Whether the tie states get contested is a whole different ball game.