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Vista is gone - but it went down kicking and screaming

Vista is gone - but it went down kicking and screaming

Some time ago I decided I'd had enough of Vista and would go back to XP. After 2 BSODS and explorer crashing when I tried to rename a file, I decided now was the time.

Sounds easy... I disconected 3 of my four drives, partitioned and formatted my O/S drive, and started the XP install procedure. Hmmm, evertime I got to the part where I expected it to say 'Press any key to boot from disk...' it just went straight into setup again. Nothing I did to the drive with either formatting or partitioning would get past this. Clearly, Vista still had it's grubby little paws on this disk.

So, back to basics. Thankfully when I built this pc I kept a floppy drive... Out came my Windows98 boot disk and straight into DOS. From there I used my equally ancient Killdisk. It took an hour and a half for Killdisk to finish, but it took Vista and erased its ass. Vista is no more, it has ceased to be - it is an ex O/S.

XP installed as smooth as ever. So here I am, in an O/S which so far has no drivers or programs installed. I'll get to that later. Meanwhile I can stick two fingers up (in the form of a 'V') to Vista. Hasta la Vista Vista, as they say ;)

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Reply #151 Top

Quoting Night, reply 19

Don't get into the psychic business.
Ok lets take it logically.

You claim that XP is bad and thats why you upgraded to Vista.

Now your saying (just because you want to argue) that companies will stay with flawed outdated technology and not upgrade to windows 7.

No sense in furthering discussion as if you reread your post, you contradict yourself so you can argue whatever direction you choose to argue.

Most people I know never had a problem with XP yet you did. Sounds like user error to me and your prediction that companies won't upgrade is based on bad information/ knowledge.


I'm sorry if you can't comprehend what I said, logically. Please don't put words into my mouth (post?).There is absolutely nothing contradicting itself in my prior post.

 

Where do I say that XP is bad? I don't. I even admitted I did NOT want to switch OS.

Why do you ASSume my OS preferences have ANYTHING to do with what I predict a business will use? It doesn't.

 

I merely explained my personal experience with switching from XP to Vista and some basic reasons why the general population is/was so negative towards it. If you read my post again you will see no complaints about XP. It just started crashing on me and since I was formatting I said "what the hell" and went with Vista.

 

I do computer service for a living (if I user-errored I wouldn't have a roof over my head or food to feed two people now would I?), I build PCs for a lot of small companies because most of my business comes from word of mouth. Just about every new customer I get, I get the "so what do you think about that Vista?" spiel, which I have been hearing since at least a few months BEFORE it even launched. So I have to reassure them that basically all the negative things they hear or have heard is old news and has been fixed. Until SP1 came out I really didn't even suggest Vista to most people unless they had me build a high end system for them. You have no idea how many customers I have gone to give a quote to and they are STILL running XP with no service pack or Windows 2000 or ME. I STILL install XP in a LOT of customers' machines simply because that is what they want. You gotta do what makes the customer happy. So I tell them what they need to know about future support with XP and that is that, eventually, I will even make more money off those customers for OS upgrades.

 

So exactly what kind of first hand experience do you have with providing information and selling services to companies and/or customers like I do? Obviously none because...

 

Quoting Night, reply 23
Win Xp is going on a decade old. In business where image is everything, running a decade old software won't fly. It doesn't have to make sense when it comes to image.  

 

Besides, in my industry most run Mac so it doesn't matter.  

 

Wow. That comment alone shows what you know about computers and business. Where do you get this illusionary thought that your business depends on whether or not you are running a so called "out dated" OS? At least now we all know it's that brand spanking new Mac and the "image" it provides doing all the work and not you.

 

Quoting Night, reply 17

When Windows 7 comes out, you will not see every business jumping into that OS either.
I predict that you will.

 

Troll much?

Please, if you want to argue or take jabs at someone personally, try reading a post more than once, or maybe five, since you seem to have a hard time understanding. Then, when you are done with that step, try actually making a valid point instead of just trying to be a dick

 

I'm sorry that Vista didn't work for YOU but like you said, it was probably a "user error".

 

P.S. If anyone reads this, go back to page 3 and see the post Bara put up, you will basically see everything I was too lazy to type about what I like about Vista (not ZOMG THAT'S WHY XP IS BAD). Very nice post from him.

Reply #152 Top

I read an article that many businesses are switching to a flavor of Linux as well.

Yeah there is some chatter about that but I think part of that is Linux disinformation and some is curiosity. It will be interesting to see if it happens but I doubt it. There is nothing stopping them from doing it now.

Reply #153 Top

Quoting Night, reply 23
Win Xp is going on a decade old. In business where image is everything, running a decade old software won't fly. It doesn't have to make sense when it comes to image.  

 

Besides, in my industry most run Mac so it doesn't matter.  

Actually, there some that are running Windows NT 2000, and many servers still run on them

Reply #154 Top

Quoting Night, reply 23
Win Xp is going on a decade old. In business where image is everything, running a decade old software won't fly. It doesn't have to make sense when it comes to image.  

 

Besides, in my industry most run Mac so it doesn't matter.  

Actually, there some that are running Windows NT 2000, and many servers still run on them

And have you heard of the phase "Don't fix things that ain't broken" well, xp was broken so there wasn't a need to fix it with vista, yet it didn't.

Reply #155 Top

Like I said, people that claim to utilize state of the art equipment will upgrade. Lots slipped past Vista but won't skip Win 7.

It's just a prediction not a statement.  Image and function have nothing to do with one another in business. My industry is design and engineering. 2 industries that tend to stay ahead of the pack when it comes to technology.  

Reply #156 Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 11
Some how saying I told you so is just not enough...

 

Ooo oo tell me something!

 

/raises hand

 

My vista ultimate 64-bit runs PERFECT. w/ 0 errors and flys due to my SSD.

 

Tell me something tell me something!

Reply #158 Top

My vista ultimate 64-bit runs PERFECT. w/ 0 errors and flys due to my SSD.

I'm gonna have to get me one of those SSD's when they drop in some price ($400 plus here in Oz for a 120gb) and become more readily available locally... some local stores know of them but just aren't stocking any at this time, meaning the going/best price would jump when ordering in a one off situation.

Reply #159 Top

Quoting kona0197, reply 7
Nice try.

 

Thats what i thought :).



Quoting starkers, reply 8

I'm gonna have to get me one of those SSD's when they drop in some price ($400 plus here in Oz for a 120gb) and become more readily available locally... some local stores know of them but just aren't stocking any at this time, meaning the going/best price would jump when ordering in a one off situation.

 

Chea. I have read some reviews on some other SSDs. Some are good and some i have heard have slow-downs and stutters. The intel ones i know are top notch (thats what i got the 80 GB one).

 

I am soon to get another 80 GB Intel SSD and ima put em in RAID :P.

 

I do get my other video card tommorow though. Wewt sli :D.

Reply #160 Top

I dunno, I've had this laptop for a year and a half now which came with vista ultimate.  I've had one BSOD and that was toward the beginning.  Other than that, I've had no problems in general with vista aside from the normal annoyances of vista that I've long since disabled.  The only vista feature I still use is aero which runs well on this machine and looks decent. 

Needless to say I'm with everyone else looking forward to windows 7.  Hopefully it's far less of a system hog (than even XP).  Only time will tell I guess.

Reply #161 Top

I should have said "Nice try to get me to argue."

Reply #162 Top

I absolutely hate microsoft and any of there product

"Their," not "there," dipshit.

Reply #163 Top

Personal attacks. Go figure. No need for name calling.

Reply #164 Top

IN REGARDS TO SSD

No more speculation. SSDs are worth the asking price. I have an OCZ Vertex 60GB, which is a cheaper model than the Intel X25-M which are the best running consumer SSDs out. THIS THING FLIES! It's amazing. It's the single biggest upgrade i've done for my computer, ever. This coming from someone who has been upgrading computers and building, etc. since he was 12. Me. Just buy one, it's worth the price and there's no reason to wait. It will be good for years to come, and is amazingly fast.

/commercial

Seriously. I love it.

Reply #165 Top

No personal attacks, thankyou.

;)

Reply #166 Top

Surprised you didn't edit his comment there Jafo.

Reply #167 Top

Quoting CommanderAdama, reply 14
IN REGARDS TO SSD

No more speculation. SSDs are worth the asking price. I have an OCZ Vertex 60GB, which is a cheaper model than the Intel X25-M which are the best running consumer SSDs out. THIS THING FLIES! It's amazing. It's the single biggest upgrade i've done for my computer, ever. This coming from someone who has been upgrading computers and building, etc. since he was 12. Me. Just buy one, it's worth the price and there's no reason to wait. It will be good for years to come, and is amazingly fast.

/commercial

Seriously. I love it.

 

Ah i have been curious about the OCZ. One thread a guy said it stutters sometimes and slows and then i read others saying its fine.

 

/shrug :P.

Reply #168 Top

Ah i have been curious about the OCZ. One thread a guy said it stutters sometimes and slows and then i read others saying its fine.


/shrug

Apparently the issue was with the first release/early models - something to do with the controller - but that has been addressed in the later models, so i have read.

:)

Reply #169 Top

Quoting starkers, reply 18

Ah i have been curious about the OCZ. One thread a guy said it stutters sometimes and slows and then i read others saying its fine.


/shrug
Apparently the issue was with the first release/early models - something to do with the controller - but that has been addressed in the later models, so i have read.

 

nice :D

Reply #170 Top

I have a nice install of Vista x64 Ultimate.

Bets OS so far. better then XP. Well at least now. Release was very.. well. We all know what happened.

 

As for the UAC thing ... what pop-ups? Turn it off and Vista has never once bitched at me....

Reply #171 Top

Yup, Vista Ultimate, 1.5 years old installation, still no problems :thumbsup:

Regarding SSD's am i imagining, or is their expected age lesser than traditional HDD's?

Reply #172 Top

Vista has worked fine for me, no problems.

Buhbye, why didn't you just go the whole hog and install Windows 7 beta?