shows that the GDP growth was negative under Allende and very positive after Pinochet took power. It reflects the setback in 1980 and has been positive every year since 1984.
Arty, it is obvious that you don't know what you are talking about. Everything you claim (and you never give sources) is so easily found out to be untrue, it's ridiculous. You keep saying things like "if you did some research you would know" and make other arrogant statements like that, despite the fact that everyone you are talking to knows more than you and has all the numbers, stats, and evidence at hand.
Oh Leauki, at it again I see.
Actually, in this regard you are the ignoramus my good fellow!
You accuse me of always making up the facts to fit the situation, and yet I routinely provide my sources.
So, in regards to Chile much of my information comes from this book:
It's called the Shock Doctrine. It spends a great deal of time looking at what hapenned in Chile, economically and politically. There is an exhaustive bibliography quoting all of the sources she used in her book, which you are more than free to peruse!
Did the GDP grow under Pinochet?
Yes, absolutely. Show me where I ever disputed that.
Did standards of living increase along with the GDP for the average person?
Not by a long shot! In fact, for the average joe quality of life went into the toilet, while a very few elite were awash in unbelievable wealth. Holding to my original position, if you knew anything about Chile's history beyond a few paragraphs on wikipedia you'd know that the 70's under pinochet were a very dark time for most and a brilliant time of luxury for a very few.
But as I always have openly stated, I am an absolute idiot. Don't take my word for it. Read the book. In fact, I will buy this book and ship it to you, if you would trust me to do so. No lie. You can order it online very easily, chances are good you can get it in your local bookstore.
In fact, in this same book Naomi Klein also has some very interesting things to say about Israel and the Palestinian situation. I recommend you read it for that alone if nothing else.
Simiarly when we discuss the 2006 Lebanon war and you tell me all sorts of things about it, you forget that _I_ was actually there when it happened. Well, actually you do not forget that, but you forget what that actually means. It's not an academic exercise for me. It's my life.
Please, forgive me. I was unaware that you were driving a Merkava across the border into Lebanon (or were you piloting an F-16? I'm a little shady on that)
Same with Iraq and the non-existent poison gas. Just last month I was actually inside a former secret police headquarters in Iraq at the Iranian border and saw with my own eyes the results of poison gas being used in civilians and was told the stories by the victims. It's not academic. It's fecking real. (Similarly, despite the well-known "fact" that Iraq didn't harbour terrorists, I was just a few miles from a place where Al-Qaeda used to be based in Iraq before 2003.)
Ah yes, Iraq again. So, how much poison gas did Saddam have by the time that the U.S invaded in 2003?
And how large was AQ in Iraq when the U.S invaded? Did they have division sized headquarters setup to export terror around the world? Please provide sources!
Again, the Iraq invasion WOULD NOT have hapenned if the U.S people did not feel threatened by Iraq.
That threat was manufactured.
At the time of the invasion, Iraq had a very small amount of gas that was decades old.
And Iraq had no connection to 9/11.
There was no massive presence in Iraq of AQ prior to the U.S occupation.
In fact, Kuwait and Israel weren't concerned about Iraq as a threat at all, with Israel pushing the U.S to do more about Iran than Iraq.
But, you regularly accuse me of making things up.
Here is the U.S president admitting that Iraq had no WMD's and had nothing to do with 9/11
but, before that there was this wonderful speech telling us that Iraq had WMD's, was hiding them, was lying about them, and was planning on using them against us;
And, never mind that Bush went on tv and stated that Iraq was trying to get uranium from Nigeria, an accusation which was proven false and which resulted in a CIA undercover operative being revealed by a member of the White House. A member who was instantly pardoned by the president after being convicted. hhhmmmm.........