NO we established no such "facts". Obama "says" he had limited contact, but the truth is he is in deep with them. So much so that even the non-Obama democrats are cringing at the relationship. And we only established that McCain addressed Acorn. Hardly an association.
you must have missed a few posts then, there was this 1 post, i think it was about factchecks.org or something, there was the whole "guilty by association" thing that seems to have been shot down (but if oyu have more to say about it be my guest) & it seems that you didnt read too much into my last post as i said i intended to say "relatively limited association" but didnt becuase some prick might come along & twist things around to his point of view.
Yea, like the german one did in 33. When you have them in your back pocket (Pelosi-Reid in the one, Ginsberg in the other), it is hard to find where the checks and balances will be. But go on with your pollyanna outlook. You will just miss the train when it slams into you.
well the great thing about trains, is that you can step to the side & be safe from them but seriously, thats why i said "relatively" if all 3 branches were to be taken over then it would fall on the duty of the people to restore things.
Wiki is not authoratative. You can start there, but anything listed there has to be verified with an independant, unbiased and untamperable site.
thats why you check the references at the bottom of the page, usually those arent messed with by everybody & their mom
Kind of Like OJ's site that proves his innocence.
actually not really, you can do the research about their claims very easily, & most of what they strive to correct are obvious misconceptions spawned by palin & McCain (like a previous claim that he was muslim)
So that makes him less guilty? "But your honor, I only stole $1000, so I am not as guilty as those who stole $10,000"!
thats different, a better example would be a captain of the SS on the front lines, compared to a colonel in charge of a concetration camp, the captain is not responsible for the deaths of 6 million jews & other, hes responsible for fighting to defend his country at all costs