I will say again, McCain and Bush support just as much Facist policies as Obama does Socialist.
And that would be a lie, as I told you before.
Obama actually does promote socialist policies. But McCain and Bush support no fascist policies.
That's why socialists (and fascists) all over the world support Obama and not McCain or Bush.
I must be an Idiot, because I don't understand why supporting some socialist policies makes you a card carrying commie. He does not want Nationalise the healthcare industry, he doesnt want to nationalize the oil industry, he doesn't want to nationalize the banking industry.
No. What you don't understand is simple sentences in English. For example, nobody said anything about card-carrying commies. Supporting many socialist policies makes one a _socialist_. That's what socialists do: they support socialist policies.
But on the other hand, supporting policies that fascists hate and oppose does NOT make one a fascist. What's so difficult about that?
You might want to read up on socialism and socialist politicians.
Once you understand what socialism is, and understand the difference between socialism and communism (in politics), and learn about fascism and what fascists think about McCain and Bush, you might not be an idiot any more.
Perhaps you lack experience. I have lived in in two European countries. My parents were for a long time members of a socialist party (which never ever promoted nationalising any major industries and in fact opposed communism). I myself voted for socialists in 1998.
And I have met German neo-Nazis. And I can tell you they absolutely HATE Israel and America and especially George W. Bush. They hate him and everything he stands for. They hate the fact that the US invaded Iraq (surprisingly enough neo-Nazis supported the Baath dictatorship, which makes a lot of sense considering the history of the Baath party and what it stands for and when and why it was founded). They hate support for Israel. And they hate most Republicans.
I cannot tell neo-Nazis who and what I am, of course, because REAL fascists, in contrast to your phantasy fascists of the Republican party, react badly to certain ethnic groups.
And the reason the argument goes "nowhere" is simply that you refuse to understand simple facts.
Obama supports socialist policies and is hence a socialist.
McCain does not support fascist policies and is hence not a fascist.
Obama is supported by socialists (and fascists) everywhere in the world.
McCain is hated by fascists (and socialists) everywhere in the world.
Calling Obama a "socialist" is a legitimate rating of his political positions. Calling McCain a fascist is stupid and silly, given that his political positions make him the sworn enemy of fascists world-wide and in the US.
Here is an article by David Duke, an actual white supremacists and the "intelectual" voice of the Ku-Klux-Klan about George Bush:
Let's see what a fascists thinks about the politician you think should be called a "fascist". I don't think I have to quote statements of German socialists (of both socialist parties) about Obama, do I?
Anywhere, here we go:
"It shows once more that the Neocons and their puppet George Bush have been lying to us about Iran for at least 5 years, fomenting war against an innocent nation. Accusing pre-Second World War Germany of “planning an aggressive war,” America led the prosecution at Nuremberg. Is President Bush not guilty of those charges. America is now seen by the world as a rogue, terrorist nation, launching a lie-fomented Iraq War for Israel’s strategic interests, and trying to launch a devastating war on Iran for Israel."
"In every way George Bush and his Neocon handlers have been a catastrophe for true American interests."
"And now, this supine servant of the Israeli extremists and their unholy influence over American politics and media, have tried to create an even more devastating war against Iran, and once again, all of his machinations and of his Jewish-supremacist bosses have turned out to be nothing but lies."
You can read similar statements about George Bush (and now McCain) on German and Arab neo-Nazi Web sites.
Realise that that is why so many Republicans think that all liberals are loonies. You people either don't know these things or you don't care. The fact that YOU (at least claim to) think that fascism is bad does not stop you from (I) allying with fascists and (II) calling George Bush a fascist.
Perhaps, if fascism is so bad, you should support those that fight fascism and whom fascists hate? Or is that too rational?
My major reason for supporting George Bush, whose economic policies I do not always support (you see, I am a bit of a socialist myself), is that those who want to kill me HATE him. Those in Germany who still believe that Hitler was the good guy HATE George Bush. Those in the Arab world who believe the same also HATE George Bush.
And left-wing loonies hate him too.
Seems like the guy has a lot going for him.
I cannot imagine violent protests against Obama in Germany. Can you?
All the violent people hate George Bush, not Obama. Doesn't that worry you at all?