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RNC 911 Tribute makes DU'er 'cry with rage'

September 5, 2008 5:37:13 PM from JoeUser ForumsJoeUser Forums

If you haven't read this yet, its really quite unique.  
Here is the tribute that has them all so upset.

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Reply #1 September 5, 2008 7:05:57 PM
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Who can blame him?  Nothing about 'inside job', nothing about 'we brought it on ourselves', nothing about 'we had it coming', nothing about 'Islamic extremism wouldn't exist if it weren't for the United States.'

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Reply #2 September 5, 2008 7:13:34 PM
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And I guess those were 'imaginary' buildings falling down.  It's so strange how otherwise intelligent, rational people can focus their rage so fiercely... on the wrong target.

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Reply #3 September 5, 2008 11:48:18 PM
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focus their rage so fiercely... on the wrong target.

Yeah, they seem angrier with Bush than Al Qeada... its no wonder why a Biden/Obama whitehouse have vowed to bring Bush/Cheney/Rove to justice rather than Al Qeada.

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Reply #4 September 6, 2008 12:38:29 AM
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While their overreaction is laughable, the video is rather exploitative.

 

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Reply #5 September 6, 2008 2:17:39 PM
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While their overreaction is laughable, the video is rather exploitative.

Allegations of 'exploitation' are way to easy to make and so subjective as to be largely meaningless, SanCho.

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Reply #6 September 6, 2008 3:10:32 PM
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I don't see anything whatsoever wrong with that video. It is a reminder of what Islamic Terrorists' objectives are, and a reminder that 9/11 wasn't an inside-job to allow a war in an oil-rich country. Insinuations that there was an inside-job are sick in every way and the people who instigate them are besmerching the memory of the victims.

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Reply #7 September 6, 2008 5:21:12 PM
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Ha. Excuse me, Damnocrats (admit it, look at the language they use, it's mild), don't you realize that you are in the "Democrat Underground" because you've put your heads in the sand?

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Reply #8 September 6, 2008 5:34:39 PM
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Damnocrats...  I think I like that.

They get Troopergate, Bridgegate, Planegate.  We get Damnocrats.  Fair deal.

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Reply #9 September 6, 2008 5:54:34 PM
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It does bring up the thought "me thinks they doth protest too much".  It seems everything the repliblicans do has to have an alterior purpose, but of course nothing they do does.

They do protest too much,

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Reply #10 September 6, 2008 6:08:44 PM
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They do protest too much

That is SO true - just check Drudge today.

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Reply #11 September 6, 2008 7:08:29 PM
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Hmmm... it looks like Olbermann suffered an on air nervous breakdown after the tribute

 

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Reply #12 September 6, 2008 7:28:47 PM
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Apparently, the 'great pain' he refers to is being reminded of history.  History that is important and politically relevant.  Sometimes history sucks.  Is it 'exploitation' to show images of piles of Jewish bodies awaiting incineration?  Is 'exploitation' to show the film 'Blackhawk Down'?

Just because he knew some of the vicitims, he's the self-appointed Vicar of Appropriateness.  Jesus, Keith, get a grip.

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Reply #13 September 6, 2008 8:24:59 PM
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I thought the video was very appropriate given the choice we are about to make for president.

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Reply #14 September 7, 2008 9:16:50 PM
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Apparently, the 'great pain' he refers to is being reminded of history. History that is important and politically relevant. Sometimes history sucks. Is it 'exploitation' to show images of piles of Jewish bodies awaiting incineration? Is 'exploitation' to show the film 'Blackhawk Down'?

Depends on how you show it I guess.  Personally I wasnt upset by it.  It is apart of history but I do think you have to be careful that you dont politicize(spelling) 9/11 or other events like it.  I think they walked a fine line there but I would say they were ok.  Olberman I think is just emotional about it and probably overreacted.  Many people still seek mental help for this situation.  And I am talking of regular people who werent even in one of these places.  But yes Keith overreacted.

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Reply #15 September 8, 2008 8:28:38 AM
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Olbermann suffered an on air nervous breakdown after the tribute

Olberman is a nervous breakdown!  What a buffoon!  He would make a very good spokesman for the democrat party - if he had an honest bone in his body.

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Reply #16 September 8, 2008 9:08:15 AM
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He has a point, in a way. I am always amazed by the amount of 9/11 footage shown around the world in an off-hand manor. I don't think people should show 9/11 time and time again when talking about what happened then, but something of this kind which commemorates what happened is one of the few times I think it is proper to use it. When sensational documentaries about how Bush is the gay lover of bin Laden use the footage, nobody says a word. When the news says 'it's 9/11, the twin towers were demolished in 9/11. Here's the clip. Right on to the next story' nobody says a word.

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Reply #17 September 8, 2008 2:24:15 PM
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'Proper' use is an entirely subjective notion, but I've never quite understood the concept that there are certain parts of factual history to which we should not be subjected.

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Reply #18 September 8, 2008 2:31:43 PM
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Quoting Daiwa,
reply 17
'Proper' use is an entirely subjective notion, but I've never quite understood the concept that there are certain parts of factual history to which we should not be subjected.

Well the twin towers' collapse saw the deaths of many people, it's not thought proper to broadcast a beheading, so why broadcast the death of so many?

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Reply #19 September 8, 2008 8:11:03 PM
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Oh, I don't know... wasn't that long ago that hanging in the public square was the rule.  Individually identifiable victims being slaughtered, I can see your point.  Even the 9/11 footage has mostly been washed of shots of people leaping to their deaths from 70 stories, though.

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Reply #20 September 9, 2008 9:06:41 AM
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Even the 9/11 footage has mostly been washed of shots of people leaping to their deaths from 70 stories, though.

Yes.  There is a way to honor the fallen, without exploiting them.

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