Palin is Pregnant

She is 17 and she and her boyfriend are getting married.

I don't hold it against her or her mom. It doesn't look to me like they were irresponsible, just a bit careless.

 

Honestly, I think this reinforces Sara Palin's pro-life values.  Her daughter could have aborted and no one would have ever known.  The fact is that Bristol CHOSE to have this baby knowing that there would be public scrutiny. I think that is shows that Sara Palin raised her daughter to share her values. 

Boudica linked the article..yeah McCain knew.

I am disappointed to read this tho.  It does make me wonder if mom was home more, spent more time with her daughter, would it have made a difference?

But I don't know, by the time I was 17, I did what I wanted....no matter the adult "interference."

I hope the same people who condemn her qualifications as VP for this...hold themselves to the same standard...meaning they accept other people judging them for the decisions their teenagers make. 

yes, me too.  Although many good parents judge themselves harshly for their children's decisions already, believing their children are an extension of themselves.  I'm willing to bet Sarah Palin is going thru some of this right now, questioning herself already. 

I do think parents in the home make a huge difference.  So I lean that way myself.  Usually when a parent puts their own aspirations ahead of their children, the kids pay the price in some form or another. 

At 17 I didn't quite have the guts to do what I wanted because I knew my parents would be home waiting for me when I got home.  It kept me straight and I believe it kept my kids straight.  It doesn't mean this is always the case but by looking around it seems that the wayward child of two parents putting their kids first and foremost is an exception rather than a rule.  Kids genuinely want to please their parents.  But if things aren't right at home, quite often the opposite can be true as well. 

I agree and was my first thought as well.  It also shows Sarah Palin, most likely advising and helping her daughter, is a woman of her words.  She's not saying one thing and doing another like most politicians out there today. 

It sounds like they are trying to make it right and trying to be responsible by giving this baby a stable home environment. 

 

Wow, if not for the investigative journalism of the Daily KOS, I'd have never learned that the Palin's are actual human beings with reproductive organs.

Obama says "there is no evidence" that any of his people had anything to do with the blog smears.  Furthermore, his mother was 18 at the time of his birth.  And if this were to happen to one of his daughters, he wouldn't want her to be punished with a baby.

Its also above his paygrade to determine whether or not the Palin girl actually has a little life growing inside of her.

Here's the next conspiracy spin I wouldn't be surprised to hear:

"McCain knew about Bristol's pregnancy and picked Palin because of it, to capitalize on the 'I wouldn't want my daughter to be punished with a baby!' gaffe and pander to the 'religious right.'.  You call that 'judgement?'"

hmmmmm now I'm wondering how much the "abort or not abort" will be front and center of this election. 

I think we already know what Obama would have been advising his daughter if the circumstances were reversed since he's been pretty vocal about it. 

The good thing out of all this is that this young girl is loved and protected by her supportive family and this life growing inside her will live regardless of the decision made by its 17 year old mother to be.

 

It seems as though many on the left are attacking Palin now because of her past association with the Alaska Independance Party....

 

It is kinda humorous, though. They say that Palin is no threat to the Obama bin Biden (someone at work referred to Obama & Biden like that...thought it was funny) ticket. But they are sure throwing all kinds of mud at the wall....

 

Chris

Now you want people to understand that?

Family values, Abstinence, Parental supervision ...etc., your hallamrk of principles and your life-long banner against liberals, are not relevant? !!!!!

This is what you call "unplanned pregnancy" ... not a major SIN????????? and you still kikin for Christ????

how soon do we forget our principles for a cheap spin !!!!!!!

How about BOTH.

the condemnation part goes mainly to the parents who didnt pay attention and to the Candidate who picked a flawed person.  

IN high school, my best friend had 3 sisters - HOT sisters (any wonder he was my best friend? ).

A very solid christian family, the mother stayed at home to raise the children.  The parents were actually very good friends (almost like second parents to me) of mine as well.

Their second daughter got pregnant at the same age.  Would you be saying the same thing about them?  The difference is that the mother was not a governor of a state.  But the daughter made the same mistake (and had the child as well).

I know this is going to be one of the milder talking points of the left, but again it will come back to haunt them as they are the ones trying to get women out of the house and into the work force.

I didn't know that an unplanned pregnancy was a major sin in Christianity.

 

It's an non-issue and anyone that makes it such should hopefully get out of politics as their a danger to anyone whoms their decisions and opinions eventually influence.

Any liberal attacking this really needs to take a good long look at themselves.

Didn't know there were any other kind.

 

I don't think this disqualifies Palin or anything else, but gets me to thinking about teenage pregnancy in general.

In the case you cited I'd wonder what other problem existed in the family.  There are many roads leading to WHY a girl has unprotected sex with a boy as a teen not the least of which is because she WANTS too.

IS this a situation where abstinence only was taught, so when the daughter got into the situation and WANTED to go ahead and consummate she didn't know about condoms?  Did she not have enough self possession to insist on them?  Or was it simply a girl and a boy, hormones, and the heat of the moment?  Or heck, mom was preggers, did she just want a baby for herself?

I am curious, but wouldn't want to invade her privacy to get the answers....tho I am sure they will come out eventually...probably in her memoirs, after her mom is president.

How's that for planning ahead? 

 

Personally, I just want them to be married before the child is born.

 

Probably.

Are you without sin?  Cast the first stone then TA.  But I can't. 

I am all for family values, abstinence and parental supervision.  The Apostle Peter said if you're going to suffer then suffer because of righteousness sake not because of something you did.  So, as a parent, believing in all these things and enforcing them, I know I did all I could.  If I didn't and things happened to my children, I should not feel guilty.

and you love to bring this up every time you can don't you?  Why is that LW?  Does it make you feel better? 

But let me clarify.  I DID NOT have a teenager get pregnant on my watch so it wasn't a similar story .  Abstinence was taught in my household and not one of my teenagers got a girl pregnant.    My son, at 23 was a fully functioning adult who also married before the child was born and in fact, had been planning to marry this girl, now his wife, anyway. 

and I'd recommend you write the book T

35 years ago?  basically sexuality was taught.  And the consequences, but nothing else.  No moral play.  This was about as non-religious a school as you could get.

But I did say 3 hot sisters and it was the second one.  Actually, there was a total of 5 girls (and 2 boys).  She was the only one.  You are looking for answers in all the wrong places.  Just as my siblings and I were all raised the same, we are not all the same.

All we can do is teach our children the right way.  They either listen or they don't.  It doesn't mean you change what you believe or teach something to them that goes astray from your core beliefs to suit the wayward child. 

Sometimes the consequences is all that is needed and does more than any condemnation will ever do.   Some learn by making their own mistakes and some learn by looking around at other's mistakes and vow not to go there. 

One thing I've noticed while watching this Bristol Palin is the fact that she seems much more mature than most 17 year olds.  Of course, I'm only observing from afar, but she as the eldest daughter of a busy working mom most likely had to shoulder a bit more responsibility than alot of girls her age, especially having such younger siblings, and it shows in her face. 

 

 

So does Obama feel his mother was "punished" with him?  I never heard the "punished with a baby" thing before but what a screwy thing to say!  Perhaps Palin's daughter understood that pregnancy was a possibility and accepted that possibility and is now taking responsibility for it....unheard of!  I doubt anyone in their family thinks of the baby as punishment.

While having a little coffee klatsch with voters in San Francisco a few months ago, he was taped saying those very words.  I'd bet you could still find it on YouTube.  The context was exactly the same - if one of his teenage daughters were to make a 'mistake' (the same 'mistake' Bristol Palin made), he wouldn't want her to be punished with a baby.  You really have to hear the audio to understand the flippancy with which he made the remark, though.

FTR, his mother was married when she had him, not that the notion of 'mistake' applies only to unmarried women, mind you.

It happens.  The fact that we even know about it is a testament to their pro-life values.