The U. S. should provide reparations for all Negro slaves

from JoeUser Forums

With numb nuts on the verge of becoming the second black president here is something that I think should be discussed before the election.

 

The U. S. should provide reparations for all Negro slaves, I firmly believe this is the right thing to do, as a colored man and as an American. I am proud to say that it has been accomplished. This was done in several stages, over the course of a few decades.

 

Freed slaves were given the choice of returning to Africa as early as the 1820’s some 40 years before the American Civil War. The nation of Liberia was formed by those former slaves that referred to themselves as Americans. They formed a democratic republic like America but where in America we had the support of the French to gain our independence and then had to fight the French and British in later wars, Liberia was squeezed by both France and Briton. Serra Leone was once part of Liberia, as well as parts of what is now called the Ivory Coast. America was not a major power back then and could do little to stop it but sent support as best we could. At the end of the civil war freed slaves were given a choice of 40 acres of land and a mule, or returning to Africa on the government’s dime.

 

All reparations were paid by the end of reconstruction.

 

So stop bitching about reparations now stupid the government is not going to pay twice for the same act!

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top

I did not know about Sierre Leone and the Ivory Coast.  I did know about Liberia (after all, its capital is Monroevile). Perhaps those that want to destroy America (as being too strong) should be taught this as well.  Weakness does not advance principals.

Reply #2 from JoeUser Forums Top

Yup. negotiation and anger management works so well on the international stage.

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top

So stop bitching about reparations now stupid the government is not going to pay twice for the same act!
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Whats most interesting are those who are continuing to cry about this that were never slaves themselves and some who are living fairly decent considering.

Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top

Whats most interesting are those who are continuing to cry about this that were never slaves themselves and some who are living fairly decent considering.
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My Great Grandparents were slaves, my Grandparents were born free. I am not looking for another handout from the government i am looking for a fair deal to keep my business running. Treat me fairly and let me succeed or fail.

Reply #5 from PolMach Forums Top

The thing is, I have never owned a slave or ever supported slavery in any form.  That's the same for pretty much every American alive today. So why should the innocent be forced to pay for the sins of their ancestors?  That's madness.  If we do that, we start having to consider all sorts of other things.


Interestingly enough, the same folks, in the vast minority, I'm happy to say, that want reparations also tend to be against Israel, who was kicked out of their land and enslaved by the ancestors of the very people who are now against them.  Those two views are therefore contradictory.  Just saying.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top

So why should the innocent be forced to pay for the sins of their ancestors? That's madness.
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No, that is Klingon! ;)

Reply #7 from JoeUser Forums Top

If we're going to pay further reparations for slavery, why don't we worry about the people in the USA still enslaved today?

If I'm going to pay reparations to black people for being slaves, they should have to be slaves for some amount of time to earn them...

Reply #8 from PolMach Forums Top

How many of the nations/people who people want to give reparations are Christians? Because Jesus overturned the Jewish belief in collective punishment and collective guilt. Therefore how, religiously, can reparations for slavery be justified? Are we our parents/grandparents/great grandparents and, secondly, how can it be rationally/secularly justified?

 

Many black slaves were captured and sold into slavery by rival tribes in Africa who gained from the slave trade, which in itself negates any reason for European/American countries paying African countries reparations for the slave trade (though more should be done anyway in helping them get a level playing-field in trade).

 

Also, blacks born in the U.S. now are free and equal citizens. The only people who should receive reparations are people who were themselves sold into slavery, and they're all long gone. If reparations for past ills begin, how about reparations from the UK to India for the mass-slaughters there? How about reparations from Austria to half of the Baltic states for invading and slaughtering them in the 19th century? How about reparations for Armenians from Turkey? Or France to the Queen of England for the beheading of the French Monarchs in 1789 (as they're bound to be related somehow)?

 

I know! Reparations to France from Italy for the invasion and harsh treatment of French people under the Roman Empire BC?

 

OR! Reparations to Israel from Egypt for invading them, enslaving them and scattering their remaining peoples around the world?

 

It's nice for countries and peoples to admit when they've done wrong. But realistically, we are not our ancestors, otherwise just about every marriage at the moment would be incestuous and illegal.

 

Reply #9 from JoeUser Forums Top

I know! Reparations to France from Italy for the invasion and harsh treatment of French people under the Roman Empire BC?
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I'll go for that. ;)

Reply #10 from JoeUser Forums Top

How about reparations from all of Europe to the USA for all the times we saved their butts but when we asked for help they drag their feet. Lets see, WWI, WWII, Korea, the cold war, all the crap they dragged us into with Kosovo and Africa, with interest that comes out to about 25 trillion dollars.

Reply #11 from JoeUser Forums Top

How about reparations from all of Europe to the USA
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Well, there goes my reparations from Italy. ;)

Reply #12 from PolMach Forums Top

Quoting Paladin77, reply 10
How about reparations from all of Europe to the USA for all the times we saved their butts but when we asked for help they drag their feet. Lets see, WWI, WWII, Korea, the cold war, all the crap they dragged us into with Kosovo and Africa, with interest that comes out to about 25 trillion dollars.
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And reperations to the UK from America for dragging us into Afghanistan, and Iraq, then!

Reply #13 from JoeUser Forums Top

And reperations to the UK from America for dragging us into Afghanistan, and Iraq, then!
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No problem, just take it out the billions we paid to rebuild the UK after WWII, and the Cold War.

Reply #14 from PolMach Forums Top

I agree with the point of the article, but I have two questions.  Did America provide any military support to Liberia?  Were we bound to provide any support once the reparations were paid?

Reply #15 from JoeUser Forums Top

Did America provide any military support to Liberia?
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Yes, but not untl much later in history when it was too late to stop the violence.

Were we bound to provide any support once the reparations were paid?
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No, not really. We provide support to a point because of the human rights violations and other silly stuff.