Who Is More Likely to Win? and the AFTERMATH?

No matter who wins, it's going to be bullshit politics as usual.

However, I'm relatively certain that despite who wins, we'd better like the VP, because I'm convinced that our next president is going to die in office - either of old, old, old, old age or assassinated.

And that's why you should vote Nader in '08!

I agree with SanChono. Whoever does win, they're going to be stuck in the same situation as all politicians, AKA acting like thy're not being controlled by the guys in the back room, aiming to please the media, and worsening the perpetual gridlock. What the American people have to decide are who will be the better actor on the international stage and whether they want to move closer to Socialism or a government run by big business.

Considering the last eight years, I think it's going to go Obama by a few small states that traditionally go red. (Virginia and Georgia, perhaps?) Unless McCain chooses Huckabee, he's alienating the Conservative base. If Obama chooses Hillary, then he crushes all credibility regarding the "Change" factor. If the running mates are Bloomberg and/or Hagel, then you'll see some uprise in the polls for a couple of weeks, followed by a gradual decrease back to what it was before.

Obama or McCain, the gridlock stays the same.

You contribute to making it a bullshit election. However, I'm forced to admit that it probably eventuate into politics as usual.  

Obama and I don't think it will even be close.

Hey, I live in Utah - I never stood a chance of my vote being worth shit.

McCain will win my state in a landslide without any effort whatsoever. At least a vote for Nader won't make me feel like my wasted vote is also soiled in the sickness of 'politics as usual'.

Join the club. Oklahoma over here: the reddest sate in the union. And we have Inhoffe.

Nader has lost his luster as a crusader--he's a cantankerous old man now and a spoiler.

I agree with the consensus. And will agree with Stevendedalus with a condition. The democrats (that is Obama and Pelosi - Reid seems to be keeping his head down) better stop sounding like fools on energy and at least pay lip service to a real solution for today (not alternatives - that plays to the base, not the soccer moms).

If Obama keeps talking about "Tire Pressure" and Pelosi about "Saving the Planet", this election is going to swing 180 degrees.

This election is going to be incredibly close and at this point it really is a toss up as to who wins it. The issue that most people need to seriously consider is not so much who wins the presidency but who wins control of Congress. Congress can have a much bigger impact on how things are done if one party holds the filibuster-proof majority (60 seats in the senate, and roughly 260 in the House). If one party can break that margin then they essentially will be able to pass just about whatever they way, if that same party controls the presidency this nation could be in some big trouble.

If Obama wins, and the Democrats take that filibuster-proof majority you will likely see the government grow in size exponentially, and our taxes to boot due to a poorly thought out universal healthcare plan. If McCain wins and the Republicans take control of congress you can expect much of the same BS that happened during the Bush administration.

At the same time if one party controls congress and another controls the presidency then we can expect more of the same BS that we have been seeing in recent years where each party points the finger of blame at the other one and absolutely nothing gets done.

Washington is horribly broken and it is going to take a long time to fix it, and the way to fix it is with fresh blood and third party candidates. With a congressional approval rating in the teens to single digits none of those running for re-election deserve to keep their jobs, vote AGAINST incumbents in the upcoming election!

Oh, wait. That's not what you meant by needing fresh blood right?

It's not really what I meant, but I'm not completely opposed to it, anything to get the current crop of idiots out of there.

:LOL: I wonder how many people would actually be upset if a terrorist managed to set off a bomb inside Congress? :LOL: Not that I am giving anyone any ideas.

Three weeks ago I would have said Obama, but now I say McCain. I think people have gotten tired of Obama’s complaining every time someone criticizes him.

What will happen if McCain wins:

1. The Office of the President and Government agencies will no longer selectively enforce/non-enforce laws along ideological line as much.

2. Budgets proposed to congress will be much closer to being balanced (will not be after congress changes everything)

3. Congress will pass most of McCain’s centrist laws proposals, but not any conservative ones. He will most likely have to buy a refill for his VETO pen after one year.

4. Judges: The Senate will not be able to drag its feet for another four years on federal Judge appointments and the Supreme Court will shift right of center for generations.



What will happen if Obama wins:

1. The office of President and Government agencies will grow in size with limited effect and with more Presidential directives issued then ever before.

2. Budgets proposed to Congress will increase social subsidies at the expense of Defense systems upgrades, military manpower levels and slashing CIA funding. The deficit spending will sky rocket without a VETO pen even being used in the Presidential office.

3. Congress will be in gridlock (except for the budget). Even with a VETO proof majority all laws allowed to be voted on by Pelosi or Reid will be so far left that McCain and his centrist (gang) will make this last year look productive.

4. Judges: The Federal court systems and Supreme Court will become so powerful no Constitution (state or Federal) will be worth the paper it is written on for a generation. We will start thinking Ruth Ginsberg is one of the Conservative Judges.

5. One thing is for sure, the 2010/12 Congress will not look the same.