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Global Warming Myth Indeed!

Global Warming Myth Indeed!

There's an interesting article over at livescience.com about many of the myths being circulated about global warming. As per usual many of these myths are being caused by folks who are simply spreading speculation to further an ideological goal without any hard science backing it up. In this particular instance, a rumour has been spreading mostly on the internet that the American Physical Society has reversed it's position on Global Warming. This simply isn't true, and in response they have reaffirmed that they still believe the consensus view on their website.

From the article, which can be found here: http://www.livescience.com/environment/080718-aps-gw.html

"Stories of the supposed policy reversal began popping up after an article by Christopher Monckton, a politician and a former policy advisor in Margaret Thatcher's administration, submitted an article in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society. The article claimed that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) had overestimated the Earth's climate sensitivity to carbon dioxide (or how much the global average temperature will change given a certain amount of carbon dioxide entering the atmosphere).

In the article, Monckton, the 3rd Viscount Monckton of Brenchley, also claims that changes in solar activity are behind the warming trend of the past few decades, an idea that has been refuted by several climate scientists.

A note in red lettering above the article states that it has not been peer-reviewed and that "its conclusions are in disagreement with the overwhelming opinion of the world scientific community. The Council of the American Physical Society disagrees with this article's conclusions."

On their homepage, the APS has now placed a statement that reaffirms its 2007 position statement on global warming, which also states, "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring." It adds that mitigation efforts must be taken immediately."

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we've succeeded in pushing the commoditization of food well beyond any reasonable threshold.
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Define 'reasonable threshold.'

every system in nature has peaks and valleys, the all-encompassing sine wave that we see reproduced throughout many different systems as a means of attaining equilibrium.
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I'll give you partial credit for that. However, the fluctuations in nature are not a 'means' of anything - they just simply occur.

Now we are told that our market works the same way with cylces of boom and bust but it just isn't true.
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Please provide the evidence upon which you base that conclusion.

I have no 'lust for seizing control of the choices of others'. I have never said that, and please kindly refrain from putting words in my mouth.
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You may not think so, but your position is an example of just that - if the only way to accomplish 'your' objectives is to block 'others' from accomplishing theirs, you will need to 'seize control' of their choices.

On a broader scale, the notion that some of us must save the rest of us from our 'folly' is an unfounded concept. I personally hold the belief that homo sapiens, being the most intelligent species on the planet, will find a way to adapt in its self-interest, without the coercive influence of some who think they know better how we should conduct ourselves. We may well need to turn this place into 'Easter Island' but, if we do, it will be due to a new ice age or some other unpredictable & uncontrollable event (one of those peaks or valleys you refer to), not due to some magic number of individuals that you or anyone else decides is some sort of golden 'threshold'.
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But thanks to modern technology and economics we've succeeded in pushing the commoditization of food well beyond any reasonable threshold.
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That is an opinion - not always shared by the housewife picking up a bunch of Bananas in a grocery store in Maine. Or an immigrant from Venezuela picking up banana leaves for tamales in Richmond.

Reasonable is subjective. I think all will agree non-perfection, but few outside of the starving aub-sahara or Bangladesh are going to say it has gone too far. And that is not a sympton of going too far, but of avarice and greed among petty tyrants the world over.