You people on this board mostly consider capitalism to be the best (or at least, the less worst) society organisation. I think many Americans think like you.. After all, that was what your country was based upon, and the recent ideological war you fought against the Soviet Empire made the USA quite paranoiac about anything that gets close to any kind of socialism.

You consider socialism to be.. "unfair". Well, it is. The point of socialism is to have everybody have access to the same kind of treatment, and you think people should have the service they pay for. The counter balance is, there are peoples who believe socialism IS fair, because it gives the same access to services, regardless of what they pay for.

The U.S.A. have decided so far (we'll see in the next future if that change) that they prefer the way of capitalism. There shouldn't be a universal service, people who can pay have access to the service they want, and the hell with those who can't. I guess that system has it's advantages. I'm currently thinking of healthcare, and even if your country has a lot of people broke because they could not afford an hospital bill, or because they could not have an insurance (either lack of money, or a pre-existing condition). But that way of things allow your country to have the technological edge in medical research (problem is, not a lot of people can afford to pay what is actually researched)

Is there a system where socialism is actually considered the best way by the Americans? Where many people agree that pure capitalism is totally flawed? Where they consider that by applying socialist behavior, the general community is winning actually more than if it kept it's capitalism way? I think I do: American Football (and, more recently, the NHL. But you don't really care about hockey, don't you?)

Teams share revenus. Teams with the largest (and best-selling) fanbase don't have the edge (I think) in term of financial ressources to acquire the best players. It's all about a pooled revenus, and after that, it depends on the quality of the Team Managers. Would you agree that the whole sport is more.. competitive because of that? Since it is more competitive, people are more willing to come watch the sport, so there are more revenus. More revenus? BECAUSE of socialist behavior? Incredible!

I know. I am talking about a sport, about a society model you rejected for the use in some aspect of your society (ex: healthcare). But.. Even if socialism DO have it's flaw (I'd be quite a blind man to refuse to see it), and capitalism IS the most economically-efficient organisation of the market, never forget that there might be side-effects (non-monatery) to Socialism that you never actually considered. These effects have the potential to better your society.

I am not saying "cast down the chains of capitalism, and become communists". People are using the same kind of arguments back where I come from, Quebec, but opposite. Peoples are considering opening private clinics, and immediatly, the unions jump and are saying "Oh no! We will become like the Americans! Everybody will have to PAY!" which is.. stupid. American have the most right-wing healthcare system in the world (I think), and it's not by putting a little water into our socialist wine that we'll become just like you. But a little notch to the right wouldn't be a bad thing, I personnally think.

Actually, I personnally think we need more than a little notch to the right (in Quebec), but I'll agree to 1 step at the time. Don't you agree that, maybe, America will need a little notch to the left? It worked for Football, and there isn't something more american than American Football.