EU lifts sanctions against Cuba

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7463803.stm

The European Union has lifted sanctions imposed on Cuba in 2003 in protest at the Cuban government's imprisonment of more than 70 dissidents.

But EU External Relations Commissioner Benita Ferrero-Waldner said the EU would continue to monitor human rights conditions in Cuba.

The sanctions' removal is largely symbolic but still a success for Raul Castro's new government, analysts say.

The decision is expected to come into formal effect on Monday.

Ms Ferrero-Waldner said the member states wanted to promote change in Cuba after Raul Castro took over as the head of government from his ailing brother, Fidel.

"There will be very clear language also on what the Cubans still have to do... releasing prisoners, really working on human rights questions," she told reporters at an EU summit in Brussels.

"There will be a sort of review to see whether indeed something will have happened," she said.

'Unwarranted'

Several leading Cuban dissidents have criticised the decision.

In a BBC interview, Miriam Leiva - one of the founding members of the dissident group Ladies in White - said the move was unwarranted as the island's new president had not made any significant moves towards creating a more open or democratic society.

Her words were echoed by another dissident, Vladimiro Roca, who accused Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero of pushing the measure forward against the will of his own people.

But the BBC's Michael Voss in Havana says Cuba will see this move as a vindication of its hardball diplomacy.

The EU sanctions were suspended in 2005, but not completely removed.

The EU has been trying to re-establish a full political dialogue with Havana ever since Fidel Castro in effect stepped down due to ill health almost two years ago, our correspondent says.

But the communist authorities had insisted there could be no progress until the EU officially removed sanctions.

The decades-old US trade embargo against Cuba remains in place.

Earlier, the US state department said it hoped the EU sanctions would not be lifted because there had not been "any kind of fundamental break" with communism as practised under Fidel Castro.

'Cocktail wars'

The original sanctions imposed by the EU five years ago included a limit on high-level government visits and the participation of EU diplomats in cultural events in Cuba.

Most European embassies also invited prominent Cuban dissidents to receptions as a protest against the country's human rights record.

This triggered the so-called "cocktail wars" where Cuban officials refused to attend, our correspondent says.

Relations improved in 2005, but the measures were not completely removed.

Since Raul Castro in effect took over from his brother, Fidel, Spain in particular has pressed hard for a complete removal of the sanctions in the light of what it sees as important reforms in Cuba.

Other countries like Sweden, and in particular the Czech Republic, believe the changes are mainly cosmetic, especially in the area of human rights.

EU benefits

In practice, the EU sanctions are largely symbolic. Unlike the US embargo which has been in force since 1962, they do not amount to any restriction on trade or investment.

Moreover, in recent years, and particularly under Raul Castro, who officially became president in February, the Cuban government has diversified its international relations.

Venezuela, which supplies billions of dollars worth of oil in exchange for Cuban doctors, and China, which buys considerable amounts of Cuba's nickel, are much more important trading partners than Europe.

Cuban government sources told the BBC the decision to lift sanctions would benefit the EU more than Cuba since it showed that Brussels could have a foreign policy independent of the US, our correspondent says.

I am still trying to find a single american news website that talks about it.. But this is somewhat big news to officialy stop the sanctions!

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Try USA Today, CNN, Miami Herald, Kansas City Star, Foxnews, Yahoo News (of course that is just a Reuters feed), Washington Post, San Diego Tribune, etc.

Old News. You have to look at last week to find it. And as the article states, it is largely symbolic.

Besides, does it really surprise anyone? If they (the EU members) are going to play footsies with Saddam, who is going to be surprised that they are in bed with Raul?
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Well, my opinion is having sanctions and things of this nature set for long periods of time and not accomplishing anything is kinda pointless. The purpose of putting someone in jail is to punish them and hope they won't do it again so they won't have to go back to jail. But that concept hardly works, the same can be said about these sanctions. I think something should be done if you truly believe there is a problem. Otherwise they should stop playing these "words on paper but are worthless" games and stop wasting money on it. Just like we are with Iran, either stop them from messing with nuclear stuff or leave them alone. I tire of all these sanctions that do nothing but say "at least we tried".

I can't say for certain Raul Castro's new control over Cuba (sorta anyways) could be an opportunity to help the Cuban people. But would it really hurt us to try? I mean we are willing to send soldiers to die in a war we can't even be sure it was worth it anymore, we are willing to waste money on useless programs to help "poor" people, why not actually make an attempt to help people who truly need it as oppose to just playing word games and document battle ship with these countries?
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I think you nailed it pretty tight, Charles. The whole point of these sanction was to hurt Cuba, and force them to change their communist stance. I don't think it worked, and I don't think it'll work.

Actually, over time, it's going to get even worse. With the trade embargo on Cuba, Venezuela has an easier time getting close to them. When you trade heavily with another country, want it or not, you have more influence over it than when you just sit next to it shouting insults at it. the embargo simply flushed down the drain every single bit of influence the U.S. had in Cuba that was still alive at the time. The same can be said about Iran/Iraq.

and, Guy, tell me what Raul Castro (or even Fidel) has done to its people that.. oh.. let's say, Saudi Sheik haven't? Freedom of speech into one of your main trade partner? Hell yhea! Let's tell the truth: the U.S. of A. don't give a damn about any "human rights", "freedom of speech" and all those other things in any country in the world. It's simply all about who's trade is important to you, and who's not. Cuba wasn't, Saudi is. So you any excuses to rattle the saber at those who are opposed to America influence, even if the whole stance if hypocrit.
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Honestly, I think it is the US-led embargo of Cuba that had allowed Fidel to stay in power for so long, and has kept Cuba a Communist state.
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and, Guy, tell me what Raul Castro (or even Fidel) has done to its people that.. oh.. let's say, Saudi Sheik haven't?


Dont ask me. I offered no reasons or condemnations. But perhaps you would want to ask the 3 million expatriated Cubans living in the US. And how many Saudis are living in the US?

I offered no first, second, or third hand experiences of Cuban abuses. I leave that to the living witnesses. But you are right - at least he (Fidel and now Raul) left some - so they cant be all bad, right?

And you rail against the patriot act? :LOL:
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And how many Saudis are living in the US?


You. Are. Right.

My bad.

The sole reason why Saudi Arabians do not jump into a crummy boat and nearly swim into America is because their life is so great over there. How am I stupid? It's so easy to cross the Persia Gulf, Indian Ocean, Suez Canal, Mediterrian Sea, Gibraltar and the Atlantic Ocean of those boats.

I offered no reasons or condemnations


But your condemned EU for restarting trade relation with Cuba, denouncing it as "being in bed with them". Are you saying the U.S. are in bed with Saudi Arabia solely because you have trade relation?

Oops.. you have WAY more than mere trade relation with them. My bad.
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You. Are. Right.

My bad.

The sole reason why Saudi Arabians do not jump


You missed the point in your Pique. Saudis in Saudi Arabia and Cubans in Cuba do not vote in America. But you can try swimming if you like, or to make things "fairer" (since that appears to be the gist of your rant), take a few thousand tug boats and drag SA closer to America so the swim is easier.

But your condemned EU for restarting trade relation with Cuba, denouncing it as "being in bed with them". Are you saying the U.S. are in bed with Saudi Arabia solely because you have trade relation?


Again, you want to make all things black and white. I do not know, nor do I care what the europeans motives are. But I guess you forgot who was bankrolling Saddam during the embargo. There is a little old saying down in the lower 48. Once a thief always a thief. This does not mean that a person will always steal, but that when something goes missing, they are going to be the first suspect.

Same deal here. Europe has to prove they are not a bunch of sleeze balls getting rich on the backs of an enslaved people - since the history is they have. You believe what you want to, as I know it is not PC to criticize Europe, only America. But the hands in Saddams Cookie Jar were European. So why dont you now prove to the world how they are being altruistic with Raul.
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So why dont you now prove to the world how they are being altruistic with Raul.


Well, my original point was that having trade relations with another contry will probably give you a lot more influence over it (or it's governement) than cutting ties with it.

America DO have a lot of influence over S.A. (but I am really wondering who is having the more influence over the other ;)), and it would be a totally bad idea to stop trading with them over the topic of human rights. America is in a way better position to help the Saudi's rights when they have some sort of leverage over their government.

Not the same with Castro since 50 years, sadly. The embargo did not achieved anything. You simply lost your official leverage with them.

The same when USA stopped having diplomatic ties with Iran. You stopped having a minimum of information gathering ressources in that country. America, I think, has been weaker overall in that decision.

Saying "I don't wanna play no more" has never benefited to anyone on the international scene as I can remember. If you a willing to give me an example where an embargo or cutting diplomatic ties with a country led to *really* successfull achievement, please inform me.
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You simply lost your official leverage with them.


We never had it. Hard to lose what you never had.

Saying "I don't wanna play no more" has never benefited to anyone on the international scene as I can remember. If you a willing to give me an example where an embargo or cutting diplomatic ties with a country led to *really* successfull achievement, please inform me.


And sleeping with sleeze balls will get you condemned as well if you are America. Damned if you do, and damned if you dont. We are the bad guys in Darfur. Why? The rest of the world yawns, and blames america. We are the bad guys in Zimbabwe. Why? The rest of the world again is yawning. So playing with sleeze balls does nothing except reap condemnation. Not playing with them reaps condemnation as well.

I would love for America to shun the crap of the world, and pat the good on the back. It will never happen. And regardless, America will still be blamed. Politics is not for the moral or ethical.
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We never had it. Hard to lose what you never had.


something small is still bigger than nothing. Trading with Cuba, for example, would still have made them dependant on your well being. But when you stopped trading with them, they had nothing else to loose to you.

And sleeping with sleeze balls will get you condemned as well if you are America. Damned if you do, and damned if you dont. We are the bad guys in Darfur. Why? The rest of the world yawns, and blames america. We are the bad guys in Zimbabwe. Why? The rest of the world again is yawning. So playing with sleeze balls does nothing except reap condemnation. Not playing with them reaps condemnation as well.


...? Err.. what's a sleeze ball?