Kerry Radio Ad insults Blacks.

Reply #1 October 16, 2004 7:11 PM from PolMach Forums Top

Yes, I heard this ad not too long ago and was thoroughly pissed because we make progress forward in the Anti-Racism Movement and somebody than drags us a couple steps back.

Oh if I remember right this was a MoveOn.org ad or something close to it.

Also Hannity played this on his radio show (which I just happened to hear out of flipping through channels on my car radio) and asked the representative to name one African American in a high position in Kerry's campaign and also to give him names of those who have been disenfranchised or blocked from voting.

I always hear about voters being blocked but have yet to hear any names. With the names we can prevent this from happening to them again.

- Grimjamin Xarrison

Reply #2 October 16, 2004 7:24 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Well, Grim, you know and I know that NO voters were "disenfranchised" in the 2000 election, in Florida or anywhere else. It's just more dirty politics by the Democratics. There were NEVER any lawsuits filed by ANY disenfranchised voter ANYWHERE in the USA.

How low will the Democrats go to get the black vote? How low will the Democrats go to get the senior citizen vote? The Democrats HAVE NO LIMITS to their hypocrisy, political rhetoric, lies, half-truths, and overall nonsense.

What's next for the Democrats and their TV and radio campaign ads? Have Jesse Jackson, the race warlord, sing "Swing Low Sweet Chariot" to the black voters? Maybe have Al Sharpton pull a Tawana Brawley by spreading feces all over himself and claiming that George Bush did this to him?

It never ends with the Democrats, because they have no MORAL COMPASS, they have no CORE BELIEFS, and they have no sense of fair play.

Reply #3 October 16, 2004 7:39 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

The times they are a changin'. The last couple generations of black children who have grown up without a family unit like their white friends did are realizing what is going down, pardon the Buffalo Springfield reference. The Reverend Jackson and his affair, the push from media to stay ghetto, the dumbing down of rap. Many can see through it, especially once they see the world.

Reply #4 October 16, 2004 8:13 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

I'd expect nothing less from the Pander Party. They should just drop the whole Democrat thing and rename the party, in the interest of full disclosure.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Reply #5 October 16, 2004 8:48 PM from PolMach Forums Top

i can picture Kerry coming on with some rapper and saying "yo, vote for me"... wouldnt put it past him

Reply #6 October 16, 2004 10:20 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

So the Democrats are the racists now? This is what you're going with? Of all the possible differences between the political parties to exploit, this is the one you're sticking with? Here's why its a mistake:

Aside from the fact the NCLB Act is a joke in its current state, let us indeed look at the use of the word "folks" instead of "people." The John Kerry ad used one word in place of another word that carries the same meaning. I suppose you could see this as racist. You could also see it as a synonym. As far as the phrase about "getting played" goes, it's certainly asinine, but no more racist than Bush blatantly preaching to Hispanics in bad Spanish so we'll think he's one of us.

While the final line about running for president is truly disturbing, I would not be so quick to judge it as deliberate. John Kerry is a politician with a staff of writers. Both writers and politicians are apt when it comes to inadvertently saying something offensive. It is just as likely that John Kerry thinks Blacks are stupid as it is that some writer thought it would be good to further differentiate his candidate from Bush by coining a new catch phrase.

Earlier today, George W. Bush gave a speech in which he said that the United States "would not have an all-volunteer army." After a couple of seconds of shocked gasping from the Republican crowd, he quickly corrected himself and said the United States "would have an all-volunteer army." I could take this as a Freudian slip and convince myself that if George W. Bush gets reelected, the draft will come down on America with the swiftness and agility of a condor. On the other hand, I could realize that George W. Bush is a human being, and not a particularly smart one at that, who is perhaps prone to slips of the tongue, mind, and trigger finger.

Stupidity and racism often coincide, but they are still two distinct things. It's useful to tell them apart.

Reply #7 October 16, 2004 10:49 PM from PolMach Forums Top

I could take this as a Freudian slip and convince myself that if George W. Bush gets reelected, the draft will come down on America with the swiftness and agility of a condor.

Was the commercial live? I think that Kerry knew exactly what he was saying when he said it.

and not a particularly smart one at that

had to add in the smear, didnt you?

Stupidity and racism often coincide, but they are still two distinct things. It's useful to tell them apart.

so is this stupidity, racism, or a mixture of both? (id go with the third)

Reply #8 October 16, 2004 11:09 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

had to add in the smear, didnt you?

You can't deny it, he isn't especially bright.

I agree though, the wording seems questionable at best. However, I don't think anyone in the Kerry campaign is dumb enough to blatantly manufacture a racist commercial this close to the election.

And shadowwar, if you are honestly voting for Bush JUST to spite Kerry's "insults", you might as well stay home, that's a terrible reason. If that's the case, I'd go so far to say you're a terrible voter as well.

Reply #9 October 16, 2004 11:13 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

And shadowwar, if you are honestly voting for Bush JUST to spite Kerry's "insults", you might as well stay home, that's a terrible reason. If that's the case, I'd go so far to say you're a terrible voter as well.

Are you saying the same thing to people who vote for Kerry simply because they dislike Bush?

Reply #10 October 17, 2004 12:04 AM from PolMach Forums Top

So the Democrats are the racists now?

Did I say the word Democrats? Is it not right to question our Government or is it only right when you are not the one who is at fault?

I value everybody's individuals rights but there is a difference between Freedom of Speech and Libel/Slander, without any names given how can we trust a party with that information? Would you trust the opposing party if they pulled the same stunt, be honest now don't pussyfoot around the question and give a half-honest answer.

I value everybody as individual and I do not seperate them or divide them no matter what differences there exist between them.

I follow the philosophy of Ayn Rand and believe in an individual's rights and that person's right to property.

I will fight for those who are persecuted whether it is racism or reverse racism (it is still racism) or whether it be because the person is challenged or different sexual preference or different religion or a gun-owner or United States Soldier.

I am for Liberty first always and every day from this day, the days preceding it and until the day I die.

'Give me Liberty or give me death!'
- Grimtrick Xenry

Reply #11 October 17, 2004 5:45 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

So the Democrats are the racists now? This is what you're going with? Of all the possible differences between the political parties to exploit, this is the one you're sticking with?

Actually I never said the democrats. In fact I only said Kerry. I know better than to lump a group to gether and acuse them all of being this or that. Oh thats right thats just what Kerry did to the blacks.

And shadowwar, if you are honestly voting for Bush JUST to spite Kerry's "insults", you might as well stay home, that's a terrible reason. If that's the case, I'd go so far to say you're a terrible voter as well.

If you had read what I wrote I said a BLACK friend of mine was now going to vote for BUSH. I never said me. You need to read before you spout off like that. I read up on the issues, and the choices and make up my own mind based on what I think is best for my country and my family. SO again before you go saying something like that to me and calling me a "terrible voter" you should make sure you are writing about something factual.

You see your attack on me is just the type of thing that gets the gall of people who try to look past all the hatefilled ads and other non-sense and try to look at real issues. Instead of thinking about what I wrote about you think about me instead. Who is the terrible voter, one who looks at the issues and choices, or one who attacks other voters based on something they themselves made up??

Reply #12 October 17, 2004 5:49 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply #8 By: apdelong31 - 10/16/2004 11:09:29 PM And shadowwar, if you are honestly voting for Bush JUST to spite Kerry's "insults", you might as well stay home, that's a terrible reason. If that's the case, I'd go so far to say you're a terrible voter as well.

Who gives a hairy rat's butt why he's doing it. Just so long as he does it is what matters.

Reply #13 October 17, 2004 6:04 PM from PolMach Forums Top

How is that offensive? I'm a minority, in a swing state and I hear crap like that from both sides, don't see how it's offensive

Reply #14 October 17, 2004 6:07 PM from PolMach Forums Top

I am Hispanic and I DO FIND IT OFFENSIVE!!

- Grimuerto Xican

Reply #15 October 17, 2004 6:08 PM from PolMach Forums Top

I'm hispanic too, and I don't, and I live in Florida

Reply #16 October 17, 2004 6:09 PM from PolMach Forums Top

as a side note, how do i change the citizen name? do i have tos ign up with another log in?

Reply #17 October 17, 2004 6:14 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

I'm Hispanic and I find it offensive, so it's two Hispanics against one, so we win!

Reply #18 October 17, 2004 6:20 PM from PolMach Forums Top

It is called exploitation of minorities.

"Bush said he would leave no child behind. But he wasn't talking about your child."
Says to me that people who support Bush don't like you because of the color of your skin; do you honestly buy into that obvious exploitation of minorities?

"Bush said prosperity was right around the corner, but he wasn't talking about the corners in your neighborhood."
Once again separates America into black and white saying because you are black you don't get included.

"Bush has a plan for America. But you're not part of it."
Oh for crying out loud, here let us make it easier for you to see.

"Kerry has a plan for America. But you are not part of it!"

Even easier:
Candidate A or B has a plan but because you are a minority you are not in that plan, face it you are minority that nobody cares for but Candidate B sort of supports you minority people because you are a minority don't you think you people want to vote for a man who supports you people (disregard the fact that he separates us into you and us people)?

Democrats and Republicans piss me off but this is a Democrat ploy show me one shed of proof of a voter who is not a part of anyone's plan, show me the name of one who got blocked from voting, show me one other Political Party that uses this ploy to get people to vote?

Separating people, hmm I wonder where I heard that before, hmm could it be the America before the 60s.

We take a step forward and they drag us back separating people into black and white.

- Grim

Reply #19 October 17, 2004 6:28 PM from PolMach Forums Top

Racism is evident anywhere ya go, i believe there's not one Latino senator.

That said blacks usually vote in droves for the dems, they're asking for a higher turnout


The other day i heard a bush "Yo quiero so voto" and it consisted of how Kerry is against illegal immigration something bush has stated repeatedly that he agrees with.

You guys need to go eat a donut and clam down some.

Reply #20 October 17, 2004 6:43 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Reply By: Freak CalizPosted: Sunday, October 17, 2004Racism is evident anywhere ya go, i believe there's not one Latino senator.

You need to check your facts before you say things like that.

Record Number of Hispanics Elected to U.S. House of Representatives
Hispanics win 25 seats in House in November 5 elections (2002) http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/diversity/a111202.htm

Results from the November 5 U.S. elections show that 25 Hispanics won seats in the House, which will mark an increase of four from the 21 in the previous session of Congress. The increase is due to three new Congressional seats created in Florida, Arizona, and California, plus the election of a Democrat of Portuguese heritage in that latter state.

The results mean "important gains" for Hispanic elected officials and provide "further evidence that the Latino community is an independent, issue-driven and increasingly important segment of the electorate," said the National Council of La Raza.

Just FYI.

Reply #21 October 17, 2004 6:47 PM from PolMach Forums Top

I believe there's lower house members though, not upper house.

Reply #22 October 17, 2004 6:48 PM from PolMach Forums Top

may be wrong, been listening to CNN to long, Bill Richardson, said so.

Reply #23 October 17, 2004 6:52 PM from PolMach Forums Top

and yes i'm well aware that billrichardson cannot be wrong, EVER.

Reply #24 October 17, 2004 7:18 PM from PolMach Forums Top

The other day i heard a bush "Yo quiero so voto" and it consisted of how Kerry is against illegal immigration something bush has stated repeatedly that he agrees with.

Have you explored the basis of thought behind the ad?

How is Kerry against Illegal Immigration?

How is Bush against Illegal Immigration?

Last time I heard both wanted to make it easier for illegal immigrants by passing the "Work Citizen" Law, in which if you come over and work in the US you become a citizen or something along those lines, somebody from the Kerry Camp and a person from the Bush Camp can expound on it further.

Though we all know racism exists is it right to promote racism through our politics or political parties?

Reply #25 October 17, 2004 7:20 PM from JoeUser Forums Top

Yo quiero so voto

It should be yo quiero su voto.