Wow, you people are sure fired up about Obama

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I look at JU's political main page, and out of the most 20 recent posts, there is 13 with "Obama" in it's title. And I am sure all of them is pretty slandering about him.

Also, I am quite sure many other titles without "Obama" in the title is speaking about the same man, in the very same way..

And you really don't want me to think JU isn't a republican-oriented forum? I mean, there are some Democratic strawmen (best example is Col Gene) standing, and also a few (very few) other non-republican-minded, but they are way demographicly outweighted...

This election is, for the first time, pretty open when you think of it. McCain and Obama both have a lot to offer to people on both sides (more than ANY candidates in the last 20 years), and both leave a somewhat-disgruntled base in their own party. There is a lot of party-changing potential for everybody, doesn't that leave you appreciative of the whole thing?

Also, both candidates are really promising. We are far from the Turd Sandwich & Giant Douche from 2004. I bet a lot more people than in both last presidential elections is going to vote for "their choice candidate" rather than "the lesser evil". Isn't something to rejoice about? Doesn't the quality of the political war wagering in the U.S. going up?

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Reply #1 from JoeUser Forums Top
First, pick up an american newspaper, turn on an american news show, read an american magazine. Who do you read/see? Obama. JU is just a reflection of what the press is in love with.

Second, show me any slander about Obama. You stated 13 articles, surely there must be some you can say instead of "And I am sure all of them is pretty slandering about him."

Slander is after all a very definitive and legal term.

Finally, why dont you read these articles, and the other ones. There is no doubt that there are many republicans on JU. However some of the articles were written by democrats, some by non-americans, and beleive it or not, most of the rest by NON-republicans. But they may be conservative.

IN summation, dont assume. It makes an ass out of you.
Reply #2 from PolMach Forums Top
Well, I can't say whether or not those posts are slander or not, but you are correct in saying that this forum is a more right-leaning forum, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing is it? There's plenty of right-leaning forums, and there's also plenty of left-leaning forums. Why does it matter?

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Reply #3 from JoeUser Forums Top
You can go over to the Huffington Press and get a nice left leaning blogsite. As an Independent I visit sites leaning both ways as well as sites with views from 3rd party bloggers. People really need to grasp the plusses and minuses of all views. There are definately reasons for certain people to go the party line but I think the fact that both parties are taking sides on certain issues simply to pull in blocs of voters means that the best solutions truly are bipartisan compromises. Probably a large reason why 40% or so of voters are Independent.

I would have to say tho the vast majority of bloggers at this site do not understand the issues, have no concept of macroeconomics, and have minimal knowledge of political history and its significance on many of the issues. Many are simply repeating the the same crap that is being fed to them by spinsters who are paid to twist the truth, and zealots who will benefit from others who may vote for policies that don't even benefit themselves.

There will definatly be a lot party changing. Many of those who just started realizing that trickle down economics ain't even trickling will go one way and i suspect the rest of the racist who didn't go the other way after the civil rights movement will finally go the other way.
Reply #4 from JoeUser Forums Top
I would have to say tho the vast majority of bloggers at this site do not understand the issues, have no concept of macroeconomics, and have minimal knowledge of political history and its significance on many of the issues.


I saw where you listed your certifications on another blog. Let me give you one of mine., Graduate degree in Economics.

Let me also say that while the general population is ignorant of economic issues, that is not true as a general rule of the JUsers. Some are, I am sure. many are not.

IN addition, if you want political history, ask for it. I dont have to research it. I have lived it. And that which came before me, I am versed in. Again, do not make the same mistake that cikomyr did.
Reply #5 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are you as an individual the vast majority? Or just one of many in here.

In any case simply take a look at the posts. There is much more repeated spin in the posts and responses than actual discussion on political and economic issues.

Let me also say that while the general population is ignorant of economic issues, that is not true as a general rule of the JUsers. Some are, I am sure. many are not.


I in no way inferred a public ignorance to economic issues. After all we are all involved in our own economic circumstances. We live our own economic issues. I specifically said MACROeconomics for a reason. I do not and never will claim to be well schooled in economics however if someone rebuts my economic opinions with valid information or theory from reputable economists, I can usually point to where my opinion comes from. If you're schooled in economics than instead of simply stating disagreement on those issues you should be explaining the reasons for your disagreement. After all there are several schools of thought amongst the top economist in the world. Some opinions end up being correct others incorrect, not to mention the models used to evaluate economic policy or change are everchanging themselves.

Reply #6 from JoeUser Forums Top
Are you as an individual the vast majority? Or just one of many in here.


I beleive I addressed both those points in my reply.

I in no way inferred a public ignorance to economic issues.


I would have to say tho the vast majority of bloggers at this site do not understand the issues, have no concept of macroeconomics, and have minimal knowledge of political history and its significance on many of the issues.


Perhaps you miswrote then. As it is, you indicated a decided lack of understanding on issues and macroeconomics. At least at JU. I was only pointing out that the average JUser has more on the ball in both categories than the general public. I stand by that claim.