Hi, "Kickin'" -

Regarding Jim Wallis, he's not "my guy" in the sense that I follow am a member of his organization - he is just one of many people whose opinions I read. My frame of reference is not only non-biblical, it is non-religious. As I stated earlier, my frame of reference is philosophical (and not from one particular school, either - a little of this, a little of that, plus trying to do something every day to add to the world rather than take away from it).

Boeing is headquartered in Seattle, so if you go to the Seattle Times website, you can probably get the local take on the tanker thing. Or the Government Accounting Office website, since that office issued the ruling.

Which is valid vote. A lot of Independents will vote McCain simply to keep the Dems from controlling everything.



Theres no reason to fix it. You are who you are, but don't let someone else put a tag on you. The GOP claims they are the party of the conservatives which at the state level they usual are. But at the federal lvl is a group that manipulates socially conservative issues to gain votes and are in no way fiscally conservative. They could be but they're too busy pandering. Some of them are but as a group they seem to be buying their next election through appropriation. To be fair the Dems do just as much of the same so I guess we all need to choose whose pandering is better for the country.

Catguy:

So quit spewing mindless talking points directly from the DNC playbook. If you'll notice, my responses to you are my own, based on my experiences and observations. This quote is just another study in logical fallacy. You attempt to discount what I say by comparing me to (who YOU consider) "the black kight".

{{{Now friends and viewers at home, which logical fallacy is described there?}}}}



Why would Lieberman feel any allegience to the DNC, while they cheer "maverics" on the Republican side of the ailes, they have no tolerance or patience for anyone who doesn't kiss the DNC ring. Pelosi and Reid have made it clear, march in lockstep or be cut off.




Ok, I'll play your silly little game here. Let's look at both statements in context here. Michelle Obama is a middle aged woman who said "For the first time in my adult life, I am really proud of my country because it feels like hope is finally making a comeback." Why is she finally proud of her country? Because her husband gets to run for president.

McCain was a prisoner of war who realized he had been taking his country for granted his whole life.

True, McCain is admitting that he was a spoiled brat, but then again, so is Michelle Obama. I'll tell you, I took a lot of things for granted about the US before I watched the coast of Delaware disappear in the horizon. I glad to say that I didn't take the USA for granted to the point that I wasn't proud of her, but I see that kind of immaturity among Americans all the time.

There's my answer, but keep in mind that I'm not defending McCain at all. I think he's a wimp who plays to the press every chance he gets. Like Hillary, he must be aching from the whiplash suffered by the press turning on him so quickly. It must be horrifying to go from media darling to villain so quickly. I think the only person to suffer a quicker yanking of the carpet was Cindy Whatsitsname... but well, she was the invention of the press so I guess the patent owner has the right to decide what to do with their own creation.

Are you trying to show everyone how "European" you are? Oh well, some of us nudniks watched Monty Python as well. Sorry to disappoint you.

I actually was enjoying our discussion. Sorry that my reponses went over your head. Come back when you would really like to discuss the issues instead of thumping the campaign stump for a candidate. The latter is fine - if you are honest about it, but hardly qualifies you as an expert on all matters just because you read some garbage on the Puffington Host.

I don't think it is "all" (as in an absolute). However if you look at the slant of the articles, the major publications are decidedly left. Not by some accusation from the vast right wing conspiracy, but by their own admission. While Timeswatch.org is a right wing newsletter (and site), they only point out the left leaning bent of one of the papers (and not even the worst one). It would do you no harm to check it out as they are an editorial site, but they do point out the liberal bent of that one paper (I am sure there are other sites to confront the other major liberal papers as well).

The slant is not always in trash talking like some of the loonier clowns on web sites do. But more the subtle kind. A great example, and a fun game to play, is to read articles about disgraced politicians (or ones under indictment). Note when they list the party of the offender - if at all, and when it occurs in the article. Also look at the labeling of the politicians. See how many times a liberal is labeled that, versus a conservative labeled as such. Bias is not always irrational hate, or failure to report news, but in how the news is presented with incendiary rhetoric.

Enjoy Obama's first general election ad, people.

SC:

Wow, Barack is running as a conservative?

Its the Rural/Urban issue. Most major newspapers are in cities where the problems are vast compared to rural areas. The more conservative papers come out of mostly smaller cities that are surrounded by a smaller extent of suburbia. Farm states for example.

Of course the Times would be liberal. NY is a huge city which has vast problems compared to many other. Timeswatch is the Heritage Foundation. Thats not news.

Smoothseas:

All the major newpapers are anymore is copy machines for the AP...and the intelligence wing of Al Qeada. They have blown every major story in the last 20 years (maybe even longer). The liberal bias takes a distant second place to the total incompetence in getting facts before reporting "news".

KFC,

I don't know anything about the bomber thing...though I do remember reading about all the bru-haha...

Sorry. Hubby may know, but he's out of town.

You can't throw out the validity of all news stories based on certain issues that are very hard to report on in the first place. There are cases in which the newspapers do get things wrong, but the last place I'm going to look for the truth is out of the mouths of politicians.

No argument here! On all points.

great minds think alike Ted  ....I almost could have written this. I thought pretty much along the same lines as you when I saw the original quote from Catguy.



yes....I am what I am.....  the only tag I really answer to fully is Christian. I may vote Republican but I don't call myself one. The closest I come is to call myself a conservative.



ok, thanks for stopping by tho. FOUR MORE DAYS!!!

"Quite the opposite.  He paid a huge price for resisting our enemies even as they held him prisoner and tortured him.   What has Obama done?  What has he proven to us? "

 

Wow, you never cease to amaze me.  Really?  I mean its amazing that I even have to debate this one...  because frankly your an idiot.

Many people have been tortured, maybe we should just make all of them president, perhaps give them a number and switch off every day, oh wait that'd be retarded.

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Take in mind this was done by republicans not democrat

Yes, YOU ARE

If you are going to hurl insults, at least do so intelligently. Not ignorantly.

ZellZodiak: True, McCain has a lot to answer for with his habit of blocking any attempts at full accountability when it comes to the POW/MIA issue. I won't trash his service, but I would like to hear his explanation for that.

Anti Christ KFC? Come on. .

I've just wrote a a bit on Obama so on my blob. So i'll keep this short.

I think some people are willing to jump to conclusions rather quickly regarding the issue of Obama and his ideas on race and religion, more so than they would other presidents, how often do we hear about McCains religions beliefs? It is only recently he became a baphtis you know?

 

The world saw plenty of your kind in 1940s Germany.

 

 

Did I say Obama was the AC? I don't recall but since you brought up the subject......

there will be one final AC that will bring in world peace howbeit a temporary false peace but up until then there will be, and has been, many AC's running around.

"Anti" means against. So basically anyone "against" Christ and leading others against Christ would be biblically considered an anti-christ. I would definitely put Obama in this category.

John the Apostle wrote in about 95 AD:

"Little chidren it is the last time and as you have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now there are many anti-christs; whereby we know that it is the last time." 1 John 2:18

But only for black people!He's also for killing as many white police as possible.And he believes that those who have both coffee colored skin and huge jug-ears are intellectually superior, and should have a special school system just for them.[/quote]

Proverbs 1:22
"How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?

But only for black people! He's also for killing as many white police as possible. And he believes that those who have both coffee colored skin and huge jug-ears are intellectually superior, and should have a special school system just for them.[/quote]

Proverbs 1:22
"How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge?

Proverbs 9:13
The woman Folly is loud; she is undisciplined and without knowledge.

Ya, a big thank-you from the Iraqis... don't expect one not with Russia and Iran on the borders or nearby.

Ya, a big thank-you from the Iraqis... don't expect one not with Russia and Iran on the borders or nearby.