What is the most current version

The 'future' has yet to come.

ObjectDock is an ever evolving product and will continue to be updated.

In Impulse I have 1.91k[a].025 and SDC I have 1.90i[b].020. So who knows which is the right one. The way I see it if it works don't mess with it until there is a major upgrade.

bodean: This is the newest version we have available.

The [b] denotes a beta version. When you have the [] in there, that means the version in question is newer than the release version of that same number. 1.90i[b] is what looks like an ObjectDock 2.0 Beta, which is, of course, newer than 1.90.

Mike

I see this... apparently SDC has not received the update. I will let the developers know. Thanks!

Mike

I use SDC. Should I be using impulse instead? Where do I find this?

Impulse download

You're between a rock and a hard place. There's no point in updating to whatever alpha/beta that is the latest. All 3 releases ("stable", beta and latest alpha) have bugs in them and bugs that have been introduced by them. You will have to wait long before any stable, I say stable, , updates will be released. If you want updates then buy WindowBlinds. It's clear that Stardock is very favouritisic (is that even a word?) to that product. No doubt about it. They won't even say what changes are in the latest alpha because such information is "not ready for public consumption". Stardock needs to get over it and come up with the goods that work 100% already.



By no means it's OD 2.0 beta. Considering that the next stable, I say stable, build is most likely be 1.95 so OD 2.0 beta it's not Luke



It has been widely publicised that SDC is being dumped even though Impulse isn't out as an official release yet. Therefore, it wasn't missed from SDC, it was simply put onto Impulse as bait for you to get it. That's very sly Stardock, very sly! *shakes head*

gee ivan, you have to criticise everything don't you. while i respect your right to an opinion, you must respect my right to say your full of shit

Please everyone Support and Development is working hard with a lot of things. It will all be updated soon to where all the numbers are the same. We all just need to give them as much help as we can. These people work hard and long hours to get things working right It is not just a quick fix all the time either.

SGT  

Beware of updating to a Beta release, as it is, well... BETA!! I would only advise someone to install a Beta if that Beta fixed an issue that person was having. It should not be installed 'lightly', if you know what I mean.

iVAN - For the record you just moan and mope all over the place. It seems to me that due to your previous history on these forums nothing you say is at all relevant. In that long one you had I think just about everyone but Frogboy stepped in to not only explain to you the way things are but in the end locked the post because everyone was tired of you prattling on.

Take your conspiracy theories somewhere else. Seems to me that every one is pretty happy with Stardock to one degree or another except you. So please, go away.

Don't respond to me either. I don't care and won't answer. I just had to get that off my chest.

As long as we'll keep going around that respect carousel, then I'm a happy bunny



I've been helping them like there's no tomorrow. I've been sending them almost daily bug reports (through auto crash-reporting procedure). I'm sorry but give them time card is no longer an ace they hold. I don't expect a overnight fix. However, considering it has been over a year since the last stable version has been released (even though it had bugs too) it's just not right for people to say that we need to give them more time. It's clear that they work on other products more than they work on this one (WindowBlinds, anyone?). Therefore, even if you pay the same amount of money for the license you still don't get treated the same in all aspects as a customer. Now that makes my blood boil. Sounds very much like communism: everybody is equal but some are more equal than others.



If it's not being dropped for over a year then why did one of the senior guys from Stardock told me that the latest alpha is not making way to SDC? Impulse and SDC won't work if installed on the same machine after Impulse launches in its stable form. There are version discrepancies but the devs rather people hop over to Impulse than sort those problems out. The point in installing a beta to test if the bugs that are supposed to be fixed have been fixed. Not to have a wave of fresh new ones thrown in your face. Additionally, if you aren't even told what changes (changelog, anyone?) then how on Earth are you supposed to make an educated decision on whether to install the beta or not? Stardock want people to be guinea pigs to test the fixes but they aren't exactly returning the favour, so to speak.



I don't have any conspiracy theories. Just because people don't say things in forums doesn't mean there aren't problems. And those who do have problems should NOT be shot down for saying there are problems. If Starock fixes the problems that I am having with their product then I'll stop complaining. Until then I have every right to share my experience, knowledge and thoughts on the matter.

Regarding the Impulse and SDC version number variations-

I just love pointing to this thread 'cuz it does such a fine job of clarifying this, particularly reply #18 WWW Link

Short version- the last 3 digits aren't necessarily going to be the same between Impulse and SDC. Use the most current version from whichever one you want (Impulse or SDC) and "fugget about it".  You might miss something important happening while you're staring at those last three digits.

It was just as I suspected: no one is able to offer any explanation for the way things are, any apologies for the way things are or any plans for making sure things won't be be the way they currently are. The sooner Stardock admits that things could be better and says how things will be improved the better.

P.S. I'm still waiting to hear from Stardock's Support Operations Manager

Just found out, that some apps, like IP are only gong to be updated on Impulse, as SDC is slowly phased out. My apologies for the confusion.

Just to correct highlander :

Well, that's actually impressive and....not at all surprising! Clearly if you pay $50-70 for ObjectDesktop then you get catered for like the royalty. However, if you only add $20 to the pot for the bubbly at the next shareholders' meeting then you're treated like a "B" movie. Wait, that's not true because WindowBlinds people get their stuff updated very often indeed. Don't try to paint a pretty picture and appeal for sentimentality Stardock, it won't work. You don't say anything, you may do something but if we can't see the results then you might as well do nothing. How much longer will OD+ be gathering dust in the backlot of your development carpark?

Don't get me wrong, I did not mean what I said in a disrespectful way. However, you must be able to take the criticism on the chin. Clearly things can be better, but they are not. You're working on other projects, which means OD+ isn't getting as much attention as it deserves. The bugs should be solved but they are still there. The support isn't useful because you get stuck in a vicious circle between the 3 releases that are currently available and none of them are 100% working. There can be no excuses for the way things are. If you make a mess you need to clean it up and I'm sure I'm not the only one who is eager to find out just how you plan on doing that.

Haven't I read this somewhere before? 

I'm sorry but I fail to see the funny side of what you are trying to say or imply. You may have heard what I've said in my previous message before (though not quite in so many words), but if problems aren't fixed then it serves Stardock well to be reminded again and again that the frustration is growing with no light at the end of the tunnel being visible

No, last time you raised this exact same issue it was answered.

Nothing has changed.

As with last time...it is now time to move on...;)

Just to correct highlander :

"IconPackager 4.0 will also be on Stardock Central for Object Desktop users."


Sorry 'bout that chief... they keep changing it on me!!!

Move on to where? At the advice of support I am stuck on the beta version that has many bugs and you are unwilling to share what you "fixed" in the alpha that's sitting on Impulse. Therefore, I'm unwilling to update to it. I've got nowhere to move on to so please do think before you speak.

What makes matters worse is that you are unwilling to admit how bad the situation is in terms of development of OD+. Face the facts. Come clean with people. I'm afraid that shielding yourself behind "it's our product, we don't have to do anything and if we do do something then it's when we feel like it" is very weak and shows you not wanting to be proactive with your customers to make the product better.

IMO,support here is very good. Also Stardock does a good job of keeping customers informed of changes,no apologies needed or expected. I've read a lot about the future plans,about Impulse and about what needs work. Maybe if you'd stop whining and start reading, you'd know that too.Btw, the Support Operations Manager's name is Helen Wait.
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NOW you tell me,lol.I've had to restore due to a few broken updates myself,gee, I should bitch more!That'll get it fixed.

  

When support is good it's good, I will not deny that. However, during at least the past 6 months my experience with support has been narrowed down to being told to roll back to the last stable update (the one with bugs in it), update to alpha that's on Impulse (the one without a changelog) or stick with the current beta (oh yes, the one with bugs in it). I have also been told that developers are aware of the issues and are working on them? What's wrong with that you would say. Well the problem is that it's the same monotonic line that I have been given for over a year. Things HAVE to start shifting. I am not pointing the finger at support for the hold-ups. I understand that they are an intermediary level between the customers and the devs. However, in vast majority of the cases it has been one way traffic and not in a good way either

While Stardock does inform of changes well, what it doesn't do so well is make changes...for OD+ that is! I know about the future plans, I know about Impulse and about what needs work. However, I live in the present day and I have problems now and they happen every single day. Stardock may do a little talk but it sure as hell hasn't walked the walk by any means yet, which is what annoys me the most. I assume that Stardock expect people to use their product on a daily basis, certainly the more often the better. Right now, with the problems it has, the attention and work it's getting from Stardock, it cannot be used on a daily basis without disappointment, at least for me.

I appreciate that not everybody experiences the same problems or experiences problems at all. However, those who do and those who provide valuable feedback in various ways need to be treated with care and be looked after. Currently this is just not happening.